On 8 okt. 2014, at 04:37, Dan Garry dgarry@wikimedia.org wrote:
As members of the Mobile Team, it's our job to make the mobile platform the best it can be. If we have to edit templates to do that because they're causing significant display issues that are disrupting the platform, so be it. For example, let's say pie charts are completely broken on mobile and display incorrectly. Should we not fix it because it's "only aesthetic”?
Well… I would say you should fix it.. but editing the wiki is not like editing the source code of MediaWiki. There are conventions and methodologies in templates can be quite unfamiliar or unknown to developers. In the past, staff has made a couple mistakes here, so people tend to keep an eye on it.
If the community can trust you to not make mistakes, they generally accept any edit. Learn and build trust by: 1: Discuss problems on the talkpage. (You can leave a ‘please look at this talkpage’ note on VP/T). 2: Use the sandbox to illustrate your discussion when that makes sense. 3: If there is positive agreement or no response, yet you feel confident, then make the edit. Or make the editrequest. 4: Keep checking in for a few days to verify if there has been any fallout. Don’t disappear, if you are making edits to the wiki, you are part of the wiki. 5: Remember that you need to do this for EACH AND EVERY individual wiki…
DJ
Jon is very capable and his restraint in this matter demonstrates that. I trust him, like I would trust any administrator, to know when directly editing is appropriate (e.g. templates protected simply to fend off vandalism), and when making an edit request is more appropriate (e.g. particularly complex templates which need review of changes).
Dan
On Tuesday, October 7, 2014, Brian Wolff bawolff@gmail.com wrote:
On Oct 7, 2014 10:03 PM, "Dan Garry" <dgarry@wikimedia.org javascript:;> wrote:
Jon,
Regarding editing specific templates, I'll echo Brion here. If a template is causing difficulties for your work and you feel like you know enough
to
fix it, then fix it! That's the wiki way. If you don't have the rights to edit the template (e.g. because it's protected), then speak to Tomasz and he will try to get you the rights that you need.
Umm, is that really a good idea? Protected templates are protected for a reason usually (at least on projects that ive worked on. Can't speak for enwiki). {{Editprotected}} seems like a better option for those, even if simply for political reasons, and if you find yourself making a lot of such requests why not ask the community how it feels about giving out advanced rights.
Imho, wmf granted advanced rights should be reserved for more serious issues than purely asethetic ones.
I agree with the setiment of just being bold for unprotected templates.
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