1: Get templateeditor rights on your volunteer account, you can edit the majority of
templates with that, and you only need to proof your skill with templates for that, which
is a reasonably low barrier.
What remains currently, even when consolidated and cleaned up, will still be thousands of
lines of CSS, for what will only touch 1 % of the pages, so it has no business in
Common.css, yet much of it requires media queries to really make a worthwhile
3: Whoever mentioned blockquotes… Just before I burned out on en.wp, I was working on
There is indeed a lot of work to do there, they are a mess.
On 8 okt. 2014, at 03:16, Jon Robson
On 7 Oct 2014 18:15, "Jon Robson" <jrobson(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
On 7 Oct 2014 18:03, "Dan Garry" <dgarry(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
> Regarding editing specific templates, I'll echo Brion here. If a
> is causing difficulties for your work and you
feel like you know enough
> fix it, then fix it! That's the wiki way.
If you don't have the rights
> edit the template (e.g. because it's
protected), then speak to Tomasz
try to get you the rights that you need.
Sure but this isn't scalable. I need
more people caring about this stuff
other than me :)
Also currently the only way to deal with these issues is to move styles
Common.CSS which only really makes sense for widely used templates...
Ideally I'd want some kind of sanity checking rather than doing it live
[without any kind of review]
always felt uncomfortable to me.
> Regarding the broader issue of the fact that there are thousands of
> kinds of templates, I will also echo Brion!
We need to make mobile
> more visible to those who are creating those
> On 7 October 2014 15:14, Brion Vibber <bvibber(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
>> On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Jon Robson <jrobson(a)wikimedia.org>
>>> On mobile we continuously get bugs related to inline styles in
>>> templates. For example:
>>> When these happen we usually spend time investigating, discover it
>>> because of a troublesome inline style
in the template and then we
>>> communicate this on the template talk page 
>>> However, rarely do these get replies and rarely does anything get
>>> Am I doing something wrong? Should I be posting these problems
>>> elsewhere? It seems like a lot of templates do not have active
>> The wiki way is not to ask and wait for someone else to act, but to
>> directly in good faith and communicate
what you did and why so that if
>> there is disagreement it can be resolved afterwards.
>> Ultimately if we're unwilling to help edit and maintain the content
>> style of the wikis, we're going to be
stuck working around bad styles
>>> There has been an RFC  open for ages that when solved I hope will
>>> lead to lots of discussions between developers and template
>>> maintainers but right now it seems even without the tools we are
>>> How can we get better at making our template styles more mobile
>> I'd like to revitalize this one; I'll do some testing this weekend
>> it on the agenda for next week's
>> I'm also interested in some kind of easy "preview how this page will
>> on mobile" in the editor, which
would probably be a separate thing...
>> -- brion
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