On 8/24/06, Andre Engels <andreengels(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Waves -> Sound -> Music -> Music events ->
Music competitions ->
Eurovision Song Contest -> Eurovision host cities -> Rome -> History
of Rome -> Ancient Rome -> Ancient Roman religion -> Ancient Roman
Christianity -> Patristics -> Heresy -> Heretics -> People executed
for heresy -> Jesus -> Doctrines and teachings of Jesus -> Nonviolence
<snip>
What a total mess. I had no idea it was this bad. Why is the category
Jesus under "People executed for heresy"? The only subcategories I
could think of for a category like that would be "Americans executed
for heresy" or "People executed for heresy in the middle ages".
Now, the rest of a post I meant to send yesterday:
On 8/23/06, Simetrical <Simetrical+wikitech(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I don't think that's a problem. *Categories*
are still at a concept
level, after all, and even if they aren't, hierarchy would still work
as expected (just there wouldn't be many available strict
supercategories). [[Beamish and Crawford]] would be in both
[[Category:Breweries]] and [[Category:Beers]]. Arguably that breaks
down the idea of strict super-/subsets, but there's no reason to apply
that to articles as a whole if it would make sense to apply it to only
part of an article that deals with multiple topics.
Yes, I think you're right, I didn't really think it through.
We don't even need [[located-in::]] for the main
encyclopedia (leaving
aside the mythical Wikidata, which is a good idea but still in the
indefinite future). We just need three types of relationships:
related-to, superset-of, subset-of.
How would you describe the relationship between Category:John Lennon
and Category:The Beatles, knowing that Category:John Lennon contains
songs that have nothing to do with The Beatles? Actually, just to
flesh this out, what are the relationships between these (possibly
fictional) categories: English rock bands, The Beatles, John Lennon,
John Lennon songs, The Beatles songs. Similarly, into which categories
would these articles go: [[The Beatles]], [[John Lennon]], [[I Am The
Walrus]] (John Lennon/Beatles song), [[Imagine (song)]] (John Lennon
solo song).
Steve