On 8/24/06, Andre Engels andreengels@gmail.com wrote:
Waves -> Sound -> Music -> Music events -> Music competitions -> Eurovision Song Contest -> Eurovision host cities -> Rome -> History of Rome -> Ancient Rome -> Ancient Roman religion -> Ancient Roman Christianity -> Patristics -> Heresy -> Heretics -> People executed for heresy -> Jesus -> Doctrines and teachings of Jesus -> Nonviolence
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What a total mess. I had no idea it was this bad. Why is the category Jesus under "People executed for heresy"? The only subcategories I could think of for a category like that would be "Americans executed for heresy" or "People executed for heresy in the middle ages".
Now, the rest of a post I meant to send yesterday:
On 8/23/06, Simetrical Simetrical+wikitech@gmail.com wrote:
I don't think that's a problem. *Categories* are still at a concept level, after all, and even if they aren't, hierarchy would still work as expected (just there wouldn't be many available strict supercategories). [[Beamish and Crawford]] would be in both [[Category:Breweries]] and [[Category:Beers]]. Arguably that breaks down the idea of strict super-/subsets, but there's no reason to apply that to articles as a whole if it would make sense to apply it to only part of an article that deals with multiple topics.
Yes, I think you're right, I didn't really think it through.
We don't even need [[located-in::]] for the main encyclopedia (leaving aside the mythical Wikidata, which is a good idea but still in the indefinite future). We just need three types of relationships: related-to, superset-of, subset-of.
How would you describe the relationship between Category:John Lennon and Category:The Beatles, knowing that Category:John Lennon contains songs that have nothing to do with The Beatles? Actually, just to flesh this out, what are the relationships between these (possibly fictional) categories: English rock bands, The Beatles, John Lennon, John Lennon songs, The Beatles songs. Similarly, into which categories would these articles go: [[The Beatles]], [[John Lennon]], [[I Am The Walrus]] (John Lennon/Beatles song), [[Imagine (song)]] (John Lennon solo song).
Steve