Hello!
This seems somewhat related to the problems we have at Wikibooks. There is plenty of bugs which describe these problems, and I think some of them are also problems at Wikisource: * Wikibooks custom database schema ( https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15071) * Create a set of special pages for handling meta-organization of books ( https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15073) * Separate reference page for glossaries, bibliographies, etc ( https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10092) * Protect, watchlist or delete a whole book at once ( https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15072) * List, count and search all books ( https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15074) * Per-book stylesheets (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15075 ) * Allow <ref>s from multiple pages to be collected into one <references/> on another page (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15070)
Helder
On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 09:31, Lars Aronsson lars@aronsson.se wrote:
On 07/01/2010 12:22 PM, ThomasV wrote:
I apologize for the length of my answer. I wish to thank those who have had the patience to read this entire post.
The problem is not a long post or two, but the fact that you seem to have locked yourself to this single issue. I'd like to discuss some far more visionary changes in how Wikisource works, but all you can talk about are these two stages of proofreading.
Let me start from another angle: Does anybody have experience from teaching beginners how to contribute to Wikisource? What are the hardest concepts to explain? I think we should compile and rank the current obstacles to the growth of Wikisource.
Just as one example, I would put the multiple namespaces (Index: and Page:) pretty high on that list, and I think that a redesign could do away with them. There was indeed a bug report filed for something similar, from the Polish community, that wanted to disconnect the naming of Index pages from the naming of PDF/Djvu files:
"<pagelist> should have file parameter", https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21398
ThomasV replied with "WONTFIX", which is understandable since this is not a simple bug fix, but a more complicated change of architecture. The problem is that this architecture was never documented, so we don't know which the design decisions are. Or was it?
This is just one example of how Wikisource is really overly complicated, putting extra burden on newcomers, and where Wikisource would benefit from a redesign. But my suggestion is that we start to compile a catalog of such problems, rather than submitting bug reports. Where is a good place to start?
-- Lars Aronsson (lars@aronsson.se) Aronsson Datateknik - http://aronsson.se
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