On 07/01/2010 12:22 PM, ThomasV wrote: The problem is not a long post or two, but the fact that you seem to have locked yourself to this single issue. I'd like to discuss some far more visionary changes in how Wikisource works, but all you can talk about are these two stages of proofreading. Let me start from another angle: Does anybody have experience from teaching beginners how to contribute to Wikisource? What are the hardest concepts to explain? I think we should compile and rank the current obstacles to the growth of Wikisource. Just as one example, I would put the multiple namespaces (Index: and Page:) pretty high on that list, and I think that a redesign could do away with them. There was indeed a bug report filed for something similar, from the Polish community, that wanted to disconnect the naming of Index pages from the naming of PDF/Djvu files: "<pagelist> should have file parameter", https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21398 ThomasV replied with "WONTFIX", which is understandable since this is not a simple bug fix, but a more complicated change of architecture. The problem is that this architecture was never documented, so we don't know which the design decisions are. Or was it? This is just one example of how Wikisource is really overly complicated, putting extra burden on newcomers, and where Wikisource would benefit from a redesign. But my suggestion is that we start to compile a catalog of such problems, rather than submitting bug reports. Where is a good place to start? -- Lars Aronsson (lars(a)aronsson.se) Aronsson Datateknik - http://aronsson.se _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l