On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 2:31 AM Antoine Musso hashar+wmf@free.fr wrote:
On 05/09/2017 17:47, Chad wrote:
On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 2:28 AM Joaquin Oltra Hernandez < jhernandez@wikimedia.org> wrote:
I think that people using old browsers on desktop, are most surely
doing it
because they have to (company policy on locked down computers) and
showing
them a banner or similar is only going to detract from their experience with information they don't neither want nor need.
To be honest, bugging these users means hopefully they'll bug their IT managers to finally get their fucking asses in the 2010s and stop being irresponsible. I won't lose any sleep over annoying them...
That is not how it works in a big company. To deploy a new browser you gotta:
- update the base images used to deploy the workstations
- revalidate all the applications
- revalidate all the web apps with that new browser (cough ActiveX,
Java, Flash, obsolete js etc)
- roll it incrementally to the ten or hundred of thousands of workstation
That is a 12-18 months project and you don't do it "just" to upgrade a browser that is however working fine for your business applications.
In the end the IT managers cant do it as easily as they would want due to time/cost. I got your point for sure, and I am pretty sure web compatibility has forced them to update their browser already, they are just lagging by a few years.
I'm well aware of how corporate IT works. A 12-18 month project....that should've been started in May 2010 when Microsoft announced the end of XP support. That's like 80+ months and counting. I'm sorry, but if you're the IT executive who thinks that is acceptable then you should resign in absolute shame and leave the field IT.
I never said it was cheap, or easy, but that it has to be done. Maybe if we annoy the CEO of a company a directive will magically come down from on high ;-)
I am pretty sure the popup would be annoying to a lot of users. Hopefully when most websites no more work in their browser, they would eventually switch to a new computer. But that can take a decade+ to achieve :-(
The internet is quickly disappearing from these browsers. Warning them beforehand is better than just one day going dark with no explanation.
If we crafted nice tutorials as to how to install and use the few browsers we offer, that might help. Chrome and Firefox most probably already have such tutorials for all the OSes they support.
Link to their sites. They typically have nice big INSTALL ME buttons on their homepages :)
-Chad