On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 2:31 AM Antoine Musso <hashar+wmf(a)free.fr> wrote:
On 05/09/2017 17:47, Chad wrote:
On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 2:28 AM Joaquin Oltra
Hernandez <
jhernandez(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
> I think that people using old browsers on desktop, are most surely
doing it
> because they have to (company policy on
locked down computers) and
showing
them a
banner or similar is only going to detract from their experience
with information they don't neither want nor need.
To be honest, bugging these users means hopefully they'll bug their IT
managers to finally get their fucking asses in the 2010s and stop being
irresponsible. I won't lose any sleep over annoying them...
That is not how it works in a big company. To deploy a new browser you
gotta:
* update the base images used to deploy the workstations
* revalidate all the applications
* revalidate all the web apps with that new browser (cough ActiveX,
Java, Flash, obsolete js etc)
* roll it incrementally to the ten or hundred of thousands of workstation
That is a 12-18 months project and you don't do it "just" to upgrade a
browser that is however working fine for your business applications.
In the end the IT managers cant do it as easily as they would want due
to time/cost. I got your point for sure, and I am pretty sure web
compatibility has forced them to update their browser already, they are
just lagging by a few years.
I'm well aware of how corporate IT works. A 12-18 month project....that
should've been started in May 2010 when Microsoft announced the end of XP
support. That's like 80+ months and counting. I'm sorry, but if you're the
IT executive who thinks that is acceptable then you should resign in
absolute shame and leave the field IT.
I never said it was cheap, or easy, but that it has to be done. Maybe if we
annoy the CEO of a company a directive will magically come down from on
high ;-)
I am pretty sure the popup would be annoying to a lot of users.
Hopefully when most websites no more work in their browser, they would
eventually switch to a new computer. But that can take a decade+ to
achieve :-(
The internet is quickly disappearing from these browsers. Warning them
beforehand is better than just one day going dark with no explanation.
If we crafted nice tutorials as to how to install and
use the few
browsers we offer, that might help. Chrome and Firefox most probably
already have such tutorials for all the OSes they support.
Link to their sites. They typically have nice big INSTALL ME buttons on
their homepages :)
-Chad