On 22 August 2012 17:17, Ryan Lane <rlane32(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I hear what
you're saying Ryan - although in fairness there is some
history
there, and also some very significant challenges
on all sides to actually
communicate. However, one has to keep in mind that sometimes the
definition of "end user" can be pretty different. On reading this
thread,
I have the sense that lots of people commenting
here see template
creators/curators as the "end user" - but they aren't in any conventional
sense. The end user is the person who actually uses the template.
The end-users for scribunto are template editors. The way the template
is called from articles is almost exactly the same. The syntax is so
similar to how it currently is that It does nothing to change the
experience for a normal editor.
I'd bet that most templates will keep the same arguments when switched
over, and the syntax will be mass changed by a bot.
-
Hmm. I can understand why scribunto is targeted at template editors -
although the argument that the end user is *not* the person using the
template is kind of like saying the end-user of a car isn't the driver.
Nonetheless, it would be nice not to have browser crashes when opening
articles that have tons of templates, so there's still an important win
there.
If the use of templates is going to be as miserable after this switch as it
is now, then there's a significant opportunity missed. (I know at least 30
people who stopped editing at least in part because of the template morass
we currently have. Some of them wrote featured content.) Nonetheless, it's
still important to have template *users* try out templates created using
scribunto to make sure that they do actually work as expected. Then I guess
the fun will be in determining if any problems come from scribunto or from
the template writer's work.
Risker/Anne