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Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikimedia-l] Quarterly reviews of high priority WMF initiatives
by Tilman Bayer 03 Mar '14

03 Mar '14

Minutes and slides from Friday's quarterly review of the Foundation's Growth team are now available at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Metrics_and_activities_meetings/Quarterly_r… . On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 6:49 PM, Erik Moeller <erik(a)wikimedia.org> wrote: > Hi folks, > > to increase accountability and create more opportunities for course > corrections and resourcing adjustments as necessary, Sue's asked me > and Howie Fung to set up a quarterly project evaluation process, > starting with our highest priority initiatives. These are, according > to Sue's narrowing focus recommendations which were approved by the > Board [1]: > > - Visual Editor > - Mobile (mobile contributions + Wikipedia Zero) > - Editor Engagement (also known as the E2 and E3 teams) > - Funds Dissemination Committe and expanded grant-making capacity > > I'm proposing the following initial schedule: > > January: > - Editor Engagement Experiments > > February: > - Visual Editor > - Mobile (Contribs + Zero) > > March: > - Editor Engagement Features (Echo, Flow projects) > - Funds Dissemination Committee > > We'll try doing this on the same day or adjacent to the monthly > metrics meetings [2], since the team(s) will give a presentation on > their recent progress, which will help set some context that would > otherwise need to be covered in the quarterly review itself. This will > also create open opportunities for feedback and questions. > > My goal is to do this in a manner where even though the quarterly > review meetings themselves are internal, the outcomes are captured as > meeting minutes and shared publicly, which is why I'm starting this > discussion on a public list as well. I've created a wiki page here > which we can use to discuss the concept further: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Metrics_and_activities_meetings/Quarterly_r… > > The internal review will, at minimum, include: > > Sue Gardner > myself > Howie Fung > Team members and relevant director(s) > Designated minute-taker > > So for example, for Visual Editor, the review team would be the Visual > Editor / Parsoid teams, Sue, me, Howie, Terry, and a minute-taker. > > I imagine the structure of the review roughly as follows, with a > duration of about 2 1/2 hours divided into 25-30 minute blocks: > > - Brief team intro and recap of team's activities through the quarter, > compared with goals > - Drill into goals and targets: Did we achieve what we said we would? > - Review of challenges, blockers and successes > - Discussion of proposed changes (e.g. resourcing, targets) and other > action items > - Buffer time, debriefing > > Once again, the primary purpose of these reviews is to create improved > structures for internal accountability, escalation points in cases > where serious changes are necessary, and transparency to the world. > > In addition to these priority initiatives, my recommendation would be > to conduct quarterly reviews for any activity that requires more than > a set amount of resources (people/dollars). These additional reviews > may however be conducted in a more lightweight manner and internally > to the departments. We're slowly getting into that habit in > engineering. > > As we pilot this process, the format of the high priority reviews can > help inform and support reviews across the organization. > > Feedback and questions are appreciated. > > All best, > Erik > > [1] https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Vote:Narrowing_Focus > [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Metrics_and_activities_meetings > -- > Erik Möller > VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation > > Support Free Knowledge: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list > Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- Tilman Bayer Senior Operations Analyst (Movement Communications) Wikimedia Foundation IRC (Freenode): HaeB

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Favorites for MW
by Gryllida 03 Mar '14

03 Mar '14

OK, this was actually meant to have a more descriptive message subject. Ignore the previous message... ----- Original message ----- From: Gryllida To: wikitech-l Subject: Fwd: [Bug 7148] Requesting watchlist for changes to category content. Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2014 13:27:11 +1100 It would seem to me that the Collection extension, which provides 'books' for various sister projects, could be adapted for favorites: 'Book:<Username>' where a user can stick favorite articles and group by sections. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Collection Thoughts? ----- Original message ----- From: bugzilla-daemon(a)wikimedia.org To: gryllida(a)fastmail.fm Subject: [Bug 7148] Requesting watchlist for changes to category content. Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2014 11:43:14 +0000 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7148 --- Comment #32 from Subfader --- I hacked me around this by using favorites and filtering new pages by faved categories. Favorites is another thing MW misses... -- You are receiving this mail because: You voted for the bug.

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Fwd: [Bug 7148] Requesting watchlist for changes to category content.
by Gryllida 03 Mar '14

03 Mar '14

It would seem to me that the Collection extension, which provides 'books' for various sister projects, could be adapted for favorites: 'Book:<Username>' where a user can stick favorite articles and group by sections. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Collection Thoughts? ----- Original message ----- From: bugzilla-daemon(a)wikimedia.org To: gryllida(a)fastmail.fm Subject: [Bug 7148] Requesting watchlist for changes to category content. Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2014 11:43:14 +0000 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7148 --- Comment #32 from Subfader --- I hacked me around this by using favorites and filtering new pages by faved categories. Favorites is another thing MW misses... -- You are receiving this mail because: You voted for the bug.

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GSOC-2014 aspirant
by Karan Dev 03 Mar '14

03 Mar '14

hi, I am B.Tech. (CS) 3rd year student from India. I have 4 years of programming experience. I am comfortable with c/c++ , Php, Javascript, HTML, MySql. I was going through idea page and found interest in "Catalogue for MediaWiki extensions". Please someone guide me where to start ?

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Drop support for PHP 5.3
by Trevor Parscal 03 Mar '14

03 Mar '14

PHP 5.4 added a few important features[1], namely traits, shorthand array syntax, and function array dereferencing. I've heard that 5.3 is nearing end of life. I propose we drop support for PHP 5.3 soon, if possible. - Trevor [1] http://php.net/manual/en/migration54.new-features.php

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Fw: Captcha Idea Proposal for GSOC 2014
by Aalekh Nigam 03 Mar '14

03 Mar '14

From: "Aalekh Nigam"<aalekh1993(a)rediffmail.com> Sent: Mon, 03 Mar 2014 20:35:51 To: "wikitech-l "<wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Fw: Captcha Idea Proposal for GSOC 2014 From: "Aalekh Nigam"<aalekh1993(a)rediffmail.com> Sent: Sun, 02 Mar 2014 15:37:42 To: "wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org"<wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Cc: "mediawiki-i18n(a)lists.wikimedia.org"<mediawiki-i18n(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Captcha Idea Proposal for GSOC 2014 Hello, >From last response on proosal for Multilingual, usable and effective captchas; i figured out following few solutions to the points raised by the mailing list members: 1)Captcha on the basis of selection of particular object:In this type of captcha the questions will be shown as shown here: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Proposal6correction.png ;other possible questions can be:"Select the images in which man is wearing sunglasses",now problem i encountered while making such captcha request is that a bot could easily use Google images or third eye to find the look for images of man wearing sunglasses from the Wikimedia Commons .....so to encounter this problem we can use a random numbering over the images and then ask user to to select the images in order of numbering for example the only answer to the sample question i provided above is :https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Proposal7correction.png ;one of the wrong answer to the given question is:https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Proposal8correction.png ; because it is not arranged in correct order which is 1,4,12 (in increasing numeric order).....ps:i did forgot to specify "increasing" numeric order in the question i provided but the plan is to provide the question as "Select human among the given photograph's and select it in increasing numeric order?". Providing increasing numeric order might make bot guess wrong answer 90% of time,which is quite comparable to the current captcha system that uses OCR as provided in the given algorithm: http://www.gizmag.com/captcha-beating-ai/29559/ . 2)Ask User to click on the same image as provided:The question for this type of captcha looks like this:https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Proposal5correction.png we can ask user to click on the options showing equivalent image to that provided in the question.For the question provided the answer is :https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Proposal9correction.png .Ps:we ca use more than four options probably eight options since it would be harder of bot to make a guess. 3)For blind and visually impaired users:We can use and audio captcha system which ask user to select the number as it is asked in the audio .For example the visual equivalent of the audio asked by the user will be : https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Proposal11correction.png .Now when audio asked user to select number "0" our user will use arrow key to move across different blocks like a slide show....with different voice speaking out the options and pressing enter will select the word spoken....hence verifying that the user is human.....although the above shown image is visual equivalent the actual image visible will be: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File%3AProposal4correction.png ;....to make the captcha reload we can user to by pressing key "r" which will be instructed in the audio while the captcha starts playing. Please give your response to idea provided and also the idea is listed here:https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:CAPTCHA Thank You Aalekh Nigam aalekhN https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:AalekhN -- Get your own FREE website, FREE domain & FREE mobile app with Company email.  Know More > Get your own FREE website, FREE domain & FREE mobile app with Company email.  Know More >

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Fw: Captcha Idea Proposal for GSOC 2014
by Aalekh Nigam 03 Mar '14

03 Mar '14

From: "Aalekh Nigam"<aalekh1993(a)rediffmail.com> Sent: Mon, 03 Mar 2014 23:39:19 To: "wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org"<wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Cc: "mediawiki-i18n(a)lists.wikimedia.org"<mediawiki-i18n(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Fw: Captcha Idea Proposal for GSOC 2014 From: "Aalekh Nigam"<aalekh1993(a)rediffmail.com> Sent: Mon, 03 Mar 2014 20:35:51 To: "wikitech-l "<wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Fw: Captcha Idea Proposal for GSOC 2014 From: "Aalekh Nigam"<aalekh1993(a)rediffmail.com> Sent: Sun, 02 Mar 2014 15:37:42 To: "wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org"<wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Cc: "mediawiki-i18n(a)lists.wikimedia.org"<mediawiki-i18n(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Captcha Idea Proposal for GSOC 2014 Hello, I have been posting my proposal for as many as  3 time within 24 hours on mailing list but there seems to be no reply from any members.....please take few minutes out of your busy schedule and give your response to the project....the points i raised here it could be interesing for community to discuss and also includes solution to the points which community is raising its concern....in few previous mails.....i sincerely request you all to please have a look at it. >From last response on proosal for Multilingual, usable and effective captchas; i figured out following few solutions to the points raised by the mailing list members: 1)Captcha on the basis of selection of particular object:In this type of captcha the questions will be shown as shown here: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Proposal6correction.png ;other possible questions can be:"Select the images in which man is wearing sunglasses",now problem i encountered while making such captcha request is that a bot could easily use Google images or third eye to find the look for images of man wearing sunglasses from the Wikimedia Commons .....so to encounter this problem we can use a random numbering over the images and then ask user to to select the images in order of numbering for example the only answer to the sample question i provided above is :https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Proposal7correction.png ;one of the wrong answer to the given question is:https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Proposal8correction.png ; because it is not arranged in correct order which is 1,4,12 (in increasing numeric order).....ps:i did forgot to specify "increasing" numeric order in the question i provided but the plan is to provide the question as "Select human among the given photograph's and select it in increasing numeric order?". Providing increasing numeric order might make bot guess wrong answer 90% of time,which is quite comparable to the current captcha system that uses OCR as provided in the given algorithm: http://www.gizmag.com/captcha-beating-ai/29559/ . 2)Ask User to click on the same image as provided:The question for this type of captcha looks like this:https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Proposal5correction.png we can ask user to click on the options showing equivalent image to that provided in the question.For the question provided the answer is :https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Proposal9correction.png .Ps:we ca use more than four options probably eight options since it would be harder of bot to make a guess. 3)For blind and visually impaired users:We can use and audio captcha system which ask user to select the number as it is asked in the audio .For example the visual equivalent of the audio asked by the user will be : https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Proposal11correction.png .Now when audio asked user to select number "0" our user will use arrow key to move across different blocks like a slide show....with different voice speaking out the options and pressing enter will select the word spoken....hence verifying that the user is human.....although the above shown image is visual equivalent the actual image visible will be: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File%3AProposal4correction.png ;....to make the captcha reload we can user to by pressing key "r" which will be instructed in the audio while the captcha starts playing. Please give your response to idea provided and also the idea is listed here:https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:CAPTCHA Thank You Aalekh Nigam aalekhN https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:AalekhN -- Get your own FREE website, FREE domain & FREE mobile app with Company email.  Know More > Get your own FREE website, FREE domain & FREE mobile app with Company email.  Know More > Get your own FREE website, FREE domain & FREE mobile app with Company email.  Know More >

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Fw: Captcha Idea Proposal for GSOC 2014
by Aalekh Nigam 03 Mar '14

03 Mar '14

From: "Aalekh Nigam"<aalekh1993(a)rediffmail.com> Sent: Mon, 03 Mar 2014 20:35:51 To: "wikitech-l "<wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Fw: Captcha Idea Proposal for GSOC 2014 From: "Aalekh Nigam"<aalekh1993(a)rediffmail.com> Sent: Sun, 02 Mar 2014 15:37:42 To: "wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org"<wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Cc: "mediawiki-i18n(a)lists.wikimedia.org"<mediawiki-i18n(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Captcha Idea Proposal for GSOC 2014 Hello, I have been posting my proposal for as many as  3 time within 24 hours on mailing list but there seems to be no reply from any members.....please take few minutes out of your busy schedule and give your response to the project....the points i raised here it could be interesing for community to discuss and also includes solution to the points which community is raising its concern....in few previous mails.....i sincerely request you all to please have a look at it. >From last response on proosal for Multilingual, usable and effective captchas; i figured out following few solutions to the points raised by the mailing list members: 1)Captcha on the basis of selection of particular object:In this type of captcha the questions will be shown as shown here: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Proposal6correction.png ;other possible questions can be:"Select the images in which man is wearing sunglasses",now problem i encountered while making such captcha request is that a bot could easily use Google images or third eye to find the look for images of man wearing sunglasses from the Wikimedia Commons .....so to encounter this problem we can use a random numbering over the images and then ask user to to select the images in order of numbering for example the only answer to the sample question i provided above is :https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Proposal7correction.png ;one of the wrong answer to the given question is:https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Proposal8correction.png ; because it is not arranged in correct order which is 1,4,12 (in increasing numeric order).....ps:i did forgot to specify "increasing" numeric order in the question i provided but the plan is to provide the question as "Select human among the given photograph's and select it in increasing numeric order?". Providing increasing numeric order might make bot guess wrong answer 90% of time,which is quite comparable to the current captcha system that uses OCR as provided in the given algorithm: http://www.gizmag.com/captcha-beating-ai/29559/ . 2)Ask User to click on the same image as provided:The question for this type of captcha looks like this:https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Proposal5correction.png we can ask user to click on the options showing equivalent image to that provided in the question.For the question provided the answer is :https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Proposal9correction.png .Ps:we ca use more than four options probably eight options since it would be harder of bot to make a guess. 3)For blind and visually impaired users:We can use and audio captcha system which ask user to select the number as it is asked in the audio .For example the visual equivalent of the audio asked by the user will be : https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Proposal11correction.png .Now when audio asked user to select number "0" our user will use arrow key to move across different blocks like a slide show....with different voice speaking out the options and pressing enter will select the word spoken....hence verifying that the user is human.....although the above shown image is visual equivalent the actual image visible will be: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File%3AProposal4correction.png ;....to make the captcha reload we can user to by pressing key "r" which will be instructed in the audio while the captcha starts playing. Please give your response to idea provided and also the idea is listed here:https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:CAPTCHA Thank You Aalekh Nigam aalekhN https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:AalekhN -- Get your own FREE website, FREE domain & FREE mobile app with Company email.  Know More > Get your own FREE website, FREE domain & FREE mobile app with Company email.  Know More >

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The Whole Wikipedia in English with pictures in one 40GB big file
by Emmanuel Engelhart 03 Mar '14

03 Mar '14

Hi For the first time, we have achieved to release a complete dump of all encyclopedic articles of the Wikipedia in English, *with thumbnails*. This ZIM file is 40 GB big and contains the current 4.5 million articles with their 3.5 millions pictures: http://download.kiwix.org/zim/wikipedia_en_all.zim.torrent This ZIM file is directly and easily usable on many types of devices like Android smartphones and Win/OSX/Linux PCs with Kiwix, or Symbian with Wikionboard. You don't need modern computers with big CPUs. You can for example create a (read-only) Wikipedia mirror on a RaspberryPi for ~100USD by using our ZIM dedicated Web server called kiwix-serve. A demo is available here: http://library.kiwix.org/wikipedia_en_all/ Like always, we also provide a packaged version (for the main PC systems) which includes fulltext search index+ZIM file+binaries: http://download.kiwix.org/portable/wikipedia_en_all.zip.torrent What is interesting too: This file was generated in less than 2 weeks thanks to multiples recent innovations: * The Parsoid (cluster), which gives us an HTML output with additional semantic RDF tags * mwoffliner, a nodejs script able to dumps pages based on the Mediawiki API (and Parsoid API) * zimwriterfs, a solution able to compile any local HTML directory to a ZIM file We have now an efficient way to generate new ZIM files. Consequently, we will work to industrialize and automatize the ZIM file generation process, one thing which is probably the most oldest and important problem we still face at Kiwix. All this would not have been possible without the support: * Wikimedia CH and the "ZIM autobuild" project * Wikimedia France and the Afripedia project * Gwicke from the WMF Parsoid dev team. BTW, we need additional developer helps with javascript/nodejs skills to fix a few issues on mwoffliner: * Recreate the "table of content" based on the HTML DOM (*) * Scrape Mediawiki Resourceloader in a manner it will continue to work offline (***) * Scrape categories (**) * Localized the script (*) * Improve the global performance by introducing usage of workers (**) * Create nodezim, the libzim nodejs binding and use it (***, need also compilation and C++ skills) * Evaluate necessary work to merge mwoffliner and new WMF PDF Renderer (***) Emmanuel -- Kiwix - Wikipedia Offline & more * Web: http://www.kiwix.org * Twitter: https://twitter.com/KiwixOffline * more: http://www.kiwix.org/wiki/Communication

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captcha idea: proposal for gnome outreach for women 14
by Mansi Gokhale 03 Mar '14

03 Mar '14

hello, These are some approaches i can think of instead of a text based captcha. The image idea where users are asked to spot the odd one out like demonstrated or find all the similar images like mentioned in here<https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/CAPTCHA> . Also a picture with a part chipped in could be shown and chipped pictures could be given as options like find the missing part from a jigsaw puzzle. The image which would be shown is http://imgur.com/uefeb08 http://imgur.com/KEJqCg3 is the picture which would be the correct option. The other options could be rotated versions of this , which would not be so easy for the bot to match. (unless it somehow worked some digital processing algorithm and matched the color gradients or something like that). This is a good option for people who do not know english or are illiterate and maybe would not understand questions like : is this a bird , plane , superman? after being shown a picture. Tell me what you think (Sorry to upload those images on imgur. i dont know how to put them on the wiki .Hope that is ok) have posted this on the CAPTCHA page<https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:CAPTCHA>also

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