Wikitech-l February 2014

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The place of language support in MediaWiki
by Gerard Meijssen 17 Feb '14

17 Feb '14

Hoi, There has been a lot of controversy about language support. Some of the arguments used indicate a lack of understanding what it is language support does. In my opinion language support is a primary requirement of MediaWiki. MediaWiki supports languages really well. In a blog post [1] I have written what language support is about and, I have indicated where Wikimedia engineers and developers are involved. What I hope to achieve is some clarity on this subject. When you find anything to add or have comments I really want to know. One final consideration, English is not even 50% [2] of our page views. Thanks, GerardM [1] http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2014/02/the-place-of-language-support-in… [2] http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesPageViewsMonthlyCombined.htm

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Visual Editor and Parsoid New Pages in Wikitext?
by Derric Atzrott 17 Feb '14

17 Feb '14

If I install the Visual Editor mediawiki extension on the Wiki that I manage here at my work and also setup Parsoid, will new pages be saved with Wikitext still? The documentation for the extension's installation mentions that after you install Visual Editor you won't be able to edit Wikitext pages, but you will be able to create new pages. It also mentions that with Parsoid you will be able to edit Wikitext pages again. This leaves unclear whether or not having Parsoid installed makes Visual Editor save new pages as Wikitext as well, or just previously existing pages. I'm thinking about letting folks try Visual Editor here, but I need to be able to work with Wikitext still as there are definitely some unusual things I do in Wikitext from time to time. Thank you, Derric Atzrott Computer Specialist Alizee Pathology

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GSoC 2014 Project
by Nitika 17 Feb '14

17 Feb '14

Hi Wikitech developers, I had sent an introductory mail itnroducing myself to the community around one week before but did not seek any reply from the mentors. On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 11:50 PM, shubham singhal < shubham.singhal464(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Everyone > > Firstly I, Shubham would like to introduce myself to the developers of this > commmunity. I am currently pursuing Computer Science and Engineering at IIT > Roorkee INDIA. I had got a good knowledge of the tools used for the > development of open source > software. > > Shubham I wonder how the skills can match exactly the same except java Language which you had mentioned over here. I had mentioned my skills in the same format one week before to the community and introduced myself. > My skills include Programming languages: GNU C/C++, Java, Python, > Javascript, > Version control systems Git/Github and SVN. I am also aware with many of > the web > development application tools and content management systems. I am an > ambitious person willing to > learn other technologies when need in future. > > Even you found the work of the community appealing because of the same reasons which I had mentioned before in my mail. You have exactly copied the first 3 paragraphs of the mail from my mail which was sent earlier. except you had mentioned the idea at last for discussion. It is good to see the way of expression and introduction of others with the community instead of just changing the name, university and post it after sometime to the mailing list. Infact I just want to work on my proposal instead of concentrating on others but don't copy the contents from the mail of others. > I choose this organisation for the contribution as the work the community > does looks very appealing and interesting to me and useful for the whole > community. The > skills used by the organisation for the development of open source software > matches with my > skills to much extent. > > I have ideas to improve and excel interest in lay people in Gene wiki* by > including the short interesting video based learning which takes the data > from Wikimedia and create a short video which helps the people to > understand easily. I need a help to work on this.* > > In this approach I would like to implement mechanism in which long > paragraphs will be extracted from geneWiki and organized in a way that can > be shown as pictures or frame of pictures. Through this mechanism people > would be able to learn easily because pictures or videos are remembered > more easily. > > Thanks > Shubham > _______________________________________________ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

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non-Latin
by Amir E. Aharoni 16 Feb '14

16 Feb '14

[private reply] 2014-02-16 11:48 GMT+02:00 Steven Walling <steven.walling(a)gmail.com>: > > What consideration > > did the designers give to non-Latin? > > > The beta feature has involved lots of testing in non-Latin scripts. > Which non-Latin scripts? Where can I see the results? -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬

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Conflict resolution wikis
by James Salsman 16 Feb '14

16 Feb '14

Please see "WikiWinWin: A Wiki Based System Together with Win Win Method for Collaborative Requirements Negotiation" by Ledan Huang, Xiaobo Wu and Yangu Zhang (2013) http://www.atlantis-press.com/php/download_paper.php?id=10885 Does someone want to do a Mediawiki extension for Google Summer of Code or the like to implement a riff on that? It's applicable to more than just software development, and the software development it talks about includes collaborative documentation. I suspect that it is very similar to general accuracy maintenance automation, and it still works better with a human participant driving the process schedule (to the extent that human is skilled at it) but there are some very attractive opportunities for e.g. Wikidata and maintenance bot integration down the road if it works out. Best regards, James Salsman

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Parsing templates into associative arrays or objects
by Toni Hermoso Pulido 15 Feb '14

15 Feb '14

Hello, sorry for the maybe naïve question. Within an extension, is there a specific method (via Parser class, for instance) or a more or less direct way that could turn a template in a wikitext string into an object or associative array. Let's say: {{Example|Name=John|Last=Smith}} into: { "Example": { "Name": "John", "Last": "Smith" } } Thanks, -- Toni Hermoso Pulido http://www.cau.cat

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Deployment and roadmap highlights - week of February 17th
by Greg Grossmeier 15 Feb '14

15 Feb '14

Hello and welcome to the latest edition of the weekly Deployments and Roadmps update. For the full (and most up to date) schedule of planned deployments, see: <https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deployments> For next week, the highlights include: == Monday == NO DEPLOYS - US Holiday (Presidents' Day) == Tuesday == MediaWiki deploy window, currently following the 1.23 schedule * group1 to 1.23wmf14: All non-Wikipedia sites (Wiktionary, Wikisource, * Wikinews, Wikibooks, Wikiquote, Wikiversity, and a few other sites) ** <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.23/Roadmap#Schedule_for_the_depl…> ** <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.23/wmf14> == Thursday == MediaWiki deploy window, currently following the 1.23 schedule) * group2 to 1.23wmf14 (all Wikipedias) * group0 to 1.23wmf15 (test/test2/testwikidata/mediawiki) ** <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.23/wmf15> * Wikidata Repository code updated on testwikidata * Pending tests on testwikidata, Wikidata Repository code updated on * wikidata.org == Long term == You can see what is known to be upcoming here: <https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deployments#Next_month> As always, questions welcome, Greg -- | Greg Grossmeier GPG: B2FA 27B1 F7EB D327 6B8E | | identi.ca: @greg A18D 1138 8E47 FAC8 1C7D |

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Bingle/Bugello broken post-Bugzilla upgrade
by Arthur Richards 14 Feb '14

14 Feb '14

Just wanted to give everyone a head's up that Bingle/Bugello are broken after yesterday's BZ upgrade. At quick glance it appears related to BZ's move to a shared host - the tools are dying with the exception: requests.exceptions.SSLError: hostname 'bugzilla.wikimedia.org' doesn't match either of '*.planet.wikimedia.org', 'planet.wikimedia.org' I'll be digging into this shortly and will update when I have more info and/or resolution. -- Arthur Richards Software Engineer, Mobile [[User:Awjrichards]] IRC: awjr +1-415-839-6885 x6687

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Let's improve our password policy
by Steven Walling 14 Feb '14

14 Feb '14

Hi everyone, For some time now we've had two Requests for Comment floating around related to passwords, neither of them making much progress. One is the older "password strength" RFC which proposed creating a module to tell users about the strength of their passwords. The second, "Password requirements", had some discussion but wasn't reaching consensus and implementation. After proposing it about a month ago, I've merged these two RFCs and refactored them in to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Passwords, partially based on feedback from Chris Steipp. Please comment. I've tried to sharpen the proposals down in to one thing we can do _right now_ which will do the most good for the most users. However, there are several other viable ideas which merit discussion and example implementations. Thanks! Steven

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API-based methods for browser test setup
by Jeff Hall 14 Feb '14

14 Feb '14

For those working with WMF browser tests, we now have test setup methods available via a new Rugygem[1]. The Rubygem uses the Mediawiki API to provide methods for creating and deleting articles, as well as creating users. More methods will likely be added in the near future. Documentation on how to use these methods within the Cucumber/Selenium-based browser test framework is available on mediawiki.org[2], and if you have questions about how to best make use of them, please hit up the QA team on IRC[3] or e-mail[4]. Thanks, Jeff [1] http://rubygems.org/gems/mediawiki_api [2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Quality_Assurance/Browser_testing/Writing_te… [3] @wikimedia-qa [4] qa(a)lists.wikimedia.org

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