Wikitech-l February 2014

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The <poem> tag to be known as <lines>
by This, that and the other 08 Feb '14

08 Feb '14

For some time, work has been ongoing on a merge of the Poem extension into MediaWiki core [1] [2]. (For those not aware, this extension [3] implements a simple <poem> tag which, among other things, preserves newlines.) Several developers have expressed the desire for an alternative name for this tag, alongside <poem> (which of course will be kept for backward compatibility). This is because the tag is sometimes used for various other uses besides poetry. There were many suggestions (see the bug report [1]), but it was eventually agreed to use Michael M.'s suggestion of <lines>. This name puts the focus on the individual "lines" of the content, which is exactly what the tag is doing. We almost had a collision with a previous proposal (<verbatim> conflicted with a tag in use on Wikia), so we wish to ensure that no-one else is using <lines>. No-one is yet aware of any MediaWiki extensions or other code using a tag named <lines> in wikitext. If you think the name <lines> will be an issue, or if you have any other concerns with this merge, please speak up, either here or at the bug report. TTO -- [1] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52061 [2] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/106861/ [3] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Poem

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Deployment and roadmap updates - week of February 10th
by Greg Grossmeier 08 Feb '14

08 Feb '14

Here is your weekly deployment and roadmap highlights email. As always, you can track upcoming deployments via this page: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deployments#Near-term == Monday == Extension:MobileApp deployed to production. New Mobile Apps (to be launched in end Feb) will have a content styling different from mobile web, supported by the MobileApp extension, so that it can update styling without having to do an app store update. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MobileApp == Tuesday == MediaWiki: group1 to 1.23wmf13: All non-Wikipedia sites (Wiktionary, Wikisource, Wikinews, Wikibooks, Wikiquote, Wikiversity, and a few other sites) https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.23/Roadmap#Schedule_for_the_depl… Flow: Convert flow UUID's from 128 bit base16 to 88 bit base36. Requires time in read-only mode (flow only). Relevant commit with explanatory commit message: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/98995/ https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Flow_Portal == Thursday == MediaWiki: group2 to 1.23wmf13 (all Wikipedias) group0 to 1.23wmf14 (test/test2/testwikidata/mediawiki) Thanks! Greg -- | Greg Grossmeier GPG: B2FA 27B1 F7EB D327 6B8E | | identi.ca: @greg A18D 1138 8E47 FAC8 1C7D |

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TitleValue
by Nik Everett 07 Feb '14

07 Feb '14

At the architecture summit yesterday we had a conversation about the TitleValue proposal and the vast majority of folks thought it was a great start. Something like 10% of us thought the patch _might_ be a start down the path to Javaify MediaWiki. I was one of the 10%. We resolved to talk more about the commit before merging it because of the objections of our minority. I felt somewhat vindicated. I slept on it. Now I don't think we made the right choice. I think more discussion is a waste of time and we should just keep moving and try to catch the Javaification if it starts creeping in. The TitleValue proposal is an improvement over what we have now so I figure we should just do it. Is that ok? In the mean time, mostly to humor me, does anyone want to start a list on wiki of some of the Javaification things they are scared of? I promise to contribute some paranoid ramblings which we can debate on the wiki or mailing list. Thanks, Nik

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Re: [Wikitech-l] The Zürich Hackathon and you
by Manuel Schneider 07 Feb '14

07 Feb '14

I read this list. Here I am ;-) -- Sent via mobile phone (+41 79 8646121 / +43 680 2437847 / +49 160 90803992) Željko Filipin <zfilipin(a)wikimedia.org> schrieb: On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 12:22 PM, rupert THURNER <rupert.thurner(a)gmail.com>wrote: > Now in cc I still do not see anybody in cc. Maybe wikitech removes cc header. Željko _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

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Fwd: FW: effects on caching
by Chad 07 Feb '14

07 Feb '14

Better late than never :) Relevant to today's outage. -Chad ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Schubotz, Moritz <schubotz(a)tu-berlin.de> Date: Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 2:04 PM Subject: FW: effects on caching To: "innocentkiller(a)gmail.com" <innocentkiller(a)gmail.com> FYI *From:* Schubotz, Moritz *Sent:* Mittwoch, 29. Januar 2014 14:33 *To:* wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org *Subject:* FW: effects on caching Hi, please be informed that recent changes in the Math extension and core might influence the stability of large MediaWiki instances due to a change in the cache key. Please contact me for further details. Best Physikerwelt *From:* Schubotz, Moritz *Sent:* Mittwoch, 29. Januar 2014 11:22 *To:* Antoine Musso *Subject:* effects on caching Hi hashar, I’d like to point out that the change that has been merged changes that caching behavior of MediaWiki for all pages that contain math. The expected behavior can be described as follows: “ By the way you can verfiy in the following way mediawiki/includes/parser/ParserCache.php ll 193 wfDebug( "ParserOutput cache found for key $parserOutputKey. \n" ); You see somehting like ParserOutput cache found for key wiki:pcache:idhash:1-0!0!*!*!*!*!*. for pages that contain math and ParserOutput cache found for key wiki:pcache:idhash:2-0!*!*!*!*!*!*. for pages that do not contain math checkout https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/108490/ page without math still has the same key ParserOutput cache found for key wiki:pcache:idhash:2-0!*!*!*!*!*!*. but the key for the page with math the debug output will read [Math] New cache key: *!*!*!*!*!*!math=0 ParserOutput cache found for key wiki:pcache:idhash:1-0!*!*!*!*!*!*!math=0. I think it's now save to merge since it won't affect pages that do not contain math and it won't have effects at all unless getMath is removed. “ Now getMath was removed before the change to the math extension has been merged. If the changes are deployed in the same order as they were merged it will create errors visible for the visitors. If they are merged in the correct order, all pages that contain math will be reRenderd on their first visit. (I think even by an anonymous user.) Since there is a high load I think that it means that all pages that contain math tags approx. 30 000 for the English Wikipedia will be rerenderd at the same time. I expect that this will influence the performance of the the wmf system in a negative way, but I cannot decide how negative that will be. Best Physikerwelt

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English Wikipedia Issues
by Derric Atzrott 06 Feb '14

06 Feb '14

Hey all, Not sure if anyone else noticed or not yet, but at least the English Wikipedia appears to be having some intermittent issues. Request: GET http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Bowl_XXVII, from 10.64.32.105 via cp1052 cp1052 ([10.64.32.104]:3128), Varnish XID 4288339681 Forwarded for: 162.17.205.153, 208.80.154.76, 10.64.32.105 Error: 503, Service Unavailable at Thu, 06 Feb 2014 16:40:23 GMT (Missed the Super Bowl and attempting to figure out what all the big talk about it is about, apparently it was a slaughter?) Thank you, Derric Atzrott Computer Specialist Alizee Pathology

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Language Engineering IRC Office Hour on February 12, 2014 (Wednesday) at 1700 UTC
by Runa Bhattacharjee 06 Feb '14

06 Feb '14

[x-posted] Hello, The Wikimedia Language Engineering team will be hosting the monthly IRC office hour on February 12, 2014 (Wednesday) at 1700 UTC/ 0900 PDT on #wikimedia-office. This time we would be talking about the recent changes made to the Universal Language Selector (ULS) - the MediaWiki extension that provides unified language configuration[1] - and the impact on the Wikimedia wikis. We look forward to addressing any questions you may have about this. Please see below for the event details. Questions can also be sent to me before the event. See you all at the IRC office hour! Thanks Runa [1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Universal_Language_Selector Event Details: ========== # Date: February 12, 2014 # Time: 1700-1800 UTC, 0900-1000 PDT ( http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20140212T1700) # IRC channel: #wikimedia-office on irc.freenode.net Agenda: ====== 1. Universal Language Selector (ULS) update and developments 2. Q & A -- Language Engineering - Outreach and QA Coordinator Wikimedia Foundation

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IRC meeting for RFC review
by Tim Starling 05 Feb '14

05 Feb '14

I would like to have an open IRC meeting for RFC review, on Tuesday 24 September at 22:00 UTC (S.F. 3pm). We will work through a few old, neglected RFCs, and maybe consider a few new ones, depending on the interests of those present. The IRC channel will be #mediawiki-rfc. -- Tim Starling

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Bugzilla Etiquette
by Andre Klapper 05 Feb '14

05 Feb '14

Today I removed the "This page is currently a draft" banner on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Bug_management/Bugzilla_etiquette as the comment rate on its Discussion page has been very low recently, hence I assume consensus has been found. The page is the outcome of lots of discussion among numerous community members (as a "Bugzilla etiquette guideline drafted: help complete it" banner was shown for several weeks on mediawiki.org). I would like to thank everybody who participated and helped in creating this document! andre -- Andre Klapper | Wikimedia Bugwrangler http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/

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Sphinx Documentation CI Build Task
by Matthew Walker 04 Feb '14

04 Feb '14

With some help from Hashar and Marktraceur I added some new CI build jobs for some fundraising stuff -- I noticed we had a job that indicates it'll build sphinx documentation so I figured I might as well add that and see where I get. ... Which is not very far -- the build fails with *19:11:58* + python setup.py build_sphinx*19:11:58* python: can't open file 'setup.py': [Errno 2] No such file or directory This makes sense; I don't have a setup.py file. But I cannot create it because I also don't know what's expected to be in that file and there doesn't seem to be anything on wikitech about this... I've used sphinx before via makefile and sphinx-build but clearly we are doing something different. Guidance please! :D ~Matt Walker Wikimedia Foundation Fundraising Technology Team

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