Greetings,
Following discussions with Wikimedia developers more on the "fringe" and not as engaged in frequent IRC or mailing list conversations, the request for an announcements only mailing list came up. I wanted to let folks know that this list has been created and is ready for membership: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-announce - wikitech-announce(a)lists.wikimedia.org There will also be a signup list for this and other lists at Wikimania Hackathon.
Unlike this list, which allows for discussion, or the MediaWiki-announce list, which focuses exclusively on MediaWiki release announcements, wikitech-announce will be used for occasional announcements on both MediaWiki and broader Wikimedia developer related news items. This includes an announcement when monthly tech or engineering reports are posted, important news updates on git or developer related tools, and information on upcoming sprints, events or other major developer collaborations.
Having presented this idea a few times, there are some common questions I will get out of the way now.
Why not just send these out on MediaWiki-announce? There was quick reaction from several of these less-engaged developers that some really did want JUST MediaWiki release info sent out on that list. In other words, the audience of that list did not like the idea.
Will this duplicate emails sent to wikitech-l? Probably, but it is not designed for folks already utilizing wikitech-l - it is designed for folks who would like less email traffic and want announcements - not conversations.
Is this really going to save folks that many emails? In June, the wikitech-l list had 639 individual messages (so far). It is unlikely that this list would exceed 12 a month. For reference, MediaWiki-announce has sent out 3 messages this month and mediawiki-l had 121 messages. This list presents a middle ground between the two extremes.
Do we not already have enough lists? Yes, but as our developer community grows, so too must our means of communicating. Many individuals, myself included, have been intentionally trying to engage developers generally less present, but just as important to our community. Such as corporate developers with an interest in sharing extensions who can benefit from announcements about git. Similarly, some students would prefer to get basic info that helps them stay on top of the latest developments.
Generally, if you find yourself having a concern about this list, it is probably not the list for you to join. However, if you find yourself excited at the idea of less development chatter while remaining informed, this might just be the list for you.
Thank you to Sumana and TheHelpfulOne for supporting this effort and to Daniel Renfro for proposing this idea and getting the discussion started.
I have volunteered to moderate the list at its start, but will be interested in recruiting others that are willing to help. Anyone with an announcement can submit one, and a moderator will approve messages which fit within the list's scope.
Finally, like any new tool, I anticipate its usage will evolve over time - so please do engage in discussion on any ideas you may have for its future.
Thank you!
-greg aka varnent
Can we create a new branch which would be speedily merged when changes
were done to it, so that we could check out on labs and apply the
change there in order to test if patches submitted by devs works ok?
Thanks to Antoine we use the same repository on beta project, but
right now it's really hard to test stuff submitted to gerrit because
we need to merge stuff by hand.
Ah hah! And the Tulsa cabal increases by one more! Another step on our (long term...very long term) goal toward world domination, scheduled for the year 2320.
Unless we get distracted.
Hey, what's that shiny thing over there?...
Welcome, Matt!
PB
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Philippe Beaudette
Director, Community Advocacy
Wikimedia Foundation, Inc
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I have a parser tag extension that calls $parser->insertStripItem() to add some text to StripState:
function myCallback($input, $argv, $parser) {
return $parser->insertStripState("this is a & test");
}
When the text renders on the wiki page, however, all ampersands have been converted to "&":
this is a & test
How can I prevent this conversion so ampersands (and presumably other special characters) are preserved?
Thanks,
DanB
So I hate to be that guy who doesn't know the simple things, but what is
Jenkins? The server has come up in discussion a few times since I joined
this mailing list about a month ago.
Actually if there is a Wiki page where these sorts of things are documented.
that would be fantastic.
Thank you,
Derric Atzrott
Computer Specialist
Alizee Pathology
Hello,
We are going to upgrade our Jenkins installation [1] during European
morning. The maintenance is expected to last 2 hours and should start
around 10am (GMT+2), 1am in San Francisco.
I will manually retrigger tests for any changes submitted to
mediawiki/core during that maintenance.
[1] https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/
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Hi
> >>perfect multiple of 7:4.
> Is there something sacred about the ratio that means anything less than
> perfection is unacceptable?
No. But 800 : 457 is no multiple of 7 : 4 and a "perfect multiple" is nonsense
wording (or has a total different meaning in number theory) because we consider
only integers.
:)
> There are some *real* issues with the rendering on Commons -- especially
> SVGs -- and it looks like the thumbnail on
*real* issues are also issues which causes other others to complain at you! :-/
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_Iran.svg from "20:14, 21
> June 2012" (http://hexm.de/jg) shows the real issue here.
YES!! But I got so slow and incompetent feedback on wikimedia that
I frustrated ignored this issue. :-(
See: URL http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Blo… urgent help
> After the problem is fixed on the ImageMagick side, you need to get
> Wikimedia Operations to deploy the fixed code.
Me? I'm not an admin and I don't know to whom I must talk.
> I've reported this to the ImageMagick devs (http://hexm.de/jh). Let's
> see what their response is before we blame "Wikimedia Politics".
>
> Mark.
Thanks for your interest, but we should continue (if necessary this discussion)
on the mailing-list. Maybe you could send also a copy of your and my current email to the mailing-list if you agree.
Thanks for support
Achim
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Apparently it's hard for me to get both dates and times right in the same
mail. Apologies for the incorrect date in the subject. This demo is in 15
minutes.
Siebrand
On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 11:47 PM, Siebrand Mazeland (WMF) <
smazeland(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
> You are invited to the Localisation team development demo on Tuesday 26
> June 2012 at 15:00 UTC (other time zones: 08:00 PDT, 17:00 CEST, 20:30
> IST). This meeting will take 40 minutes at most. In this meeting
> the Localisation team will present its deliverables from sprint 18[1].
> After about 20 minutes of presentation, the remainder of the meeting is for
> discussion.
>
> We hope you can attend, and please invite any other colleagues or friends
> you think are interested!
>
> This meeting will be held using WebEx. Please ensure that you log in a few
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> this meeting to your calendar can be found below the signature.
>
> [1]
> https://mingle.corp.wikimedia.org/projects/internationalization/cards/710
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> To join the online meeting (Now from mobile devices!)
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