Wikitech-l February 2012

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[GSoC 2012] Proposal - Realtime Collaboration on Visual Editor
by Ashish Dubey 21 Feb '12

21 Feb '12

Hi Everyone The idea of realtime collaboration, and the thought of it being implemented on MediaWiki based sites has amazed me ever since I read about it in the strategic proposal about Realtime collaboration here[1]. I really wanted to work on it as my GSoC project and through some fruitful amount of discussions with devs on IRC, this has got me all the more excited about it. With the way, Visual Editor has been fundamentally constructed, it should support effectively building realtime collaboration over it. The combination of its transactions and annotations provides a structure that is similar to what is implemented in Google Wave. Operational Transformation and composition concepts as used by Google Wave can be put in action on Visual Editor to consolidate the concurrent operations and prevent conflicts. The project should include implementing a collaboration server(built on Node.js), which would serve to the connected clients the wiki page content in form of a DOM structure and receive the editor transactions from the clients, transform them against the converging document state and broadcast them to the other clients. A client adapter would be built which would hook into the editor's transaction system and transmit them to the server. With the help of suggestions by Trevor and Gabriel, I've been able to start some work on this idea. I've wireframed a raw collaboration server and the client adapter, which works by naively communicating the transactions among the clients via the server. I'm now working on implementing some sort of concurrency control on the transactions. All my experimentation work lives in my GitHub repository[2]. Inviting feedback. Thank you. Links: [1] - http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposal:Collaborative_Google_Wave-based… [2] - https://github.com/dash1291/VE-collaboration More: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Future/Real-time_collaboration http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Visual_editor/Realtime_collaboration -- Ashish Dubey

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1.19 post-deployment bugs
by mhershberger＠wikimedia.org 21 Feb '12

21 Feb '12

With this rollout, we've been watching the Village Pumps on various projects and trying to work with people who are active on the projects and, in the process, we've come up with some bugs that we'd like to get fixed before we deploy to Commons on Tuesday (see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.19/Roadmap#Deployment_schedule) In order of priority: * Bug 34409: 'mw.user.options' and 'mw.user.tokens' are sometimes empty on 1.19, breaking watchlist, gadgets, etc. https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34409 Roan tried to fix this one (r111695) but the problem still shows up. Erik writes: Consistent reproduction is hard (in some user sessions, seemingly impossible, with others, continually appearing), suggesting a bug that's triggered under certain timing conditions. * Bug 34469: (un)watch button broken https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34469 Robla's summary is thorough, but here is the gist: The common denominator when this fails is that mw.user.options fails to load, which is easily confirmed by calling mw.user.options.get() from the javascript console. This gets back to our old friend, bug 34409, which is a much bigger problem than just watchlists. * Bug 34450: Probable Javascript loading issues (navigation and tabbing issues, multiple browsers) https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34450 See RobLa's note to wikitech-l http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.technical/58858 Andrew Garrett has fixed at least part of this issue, but some work remains. * Bug 34458: Editing fails in IE7 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34458 This is has evidently been around a while so we don't *need* to block any deployments, but it would be nice to fix it * Bug 34421: mutiple headers in email from UserMailer https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34421 I plan on fixing this by Monday (since I caused it). Antoine, though, has done a lot of work tracking it down, though, and beat me to it. Or you, reading this, could. Most of the other bugs we found were rapidly dealt with. Happy Hacking! Mark

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About page ID
by Alex Brollo 21 Feb '12

21 Feb '12

Is there a sound reason to hidden so well the main id of pages? Is there any drawback to show it anywhere into wikies, and to use it much largely for links and API calls? Alex brollo

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IRC office hours with the localization team on Februari 21
by Gerard Meijssen 21 Feb '12

21 Feb '12

Hoi, Today at 18:00 UTC (see also the link below) there is a Wikimedia Office hour with the WMF localisation team. The subject is what more can we do for your language. On my blog I entered some of the things we can talk about. We also love to hear about how what we already do works for you and what we (both you and us) can do to extend it further. Joining our office hours is a great way to celebrate International Mother Language Day. Thanks, Gerard http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?hour=18&min=00&sec=0&d… http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.com/2012/02/international-mother-language-d… ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Steven Walling <swalling(a)wikimedia.org> Date: 20 February 2012 23:17 Subject: [Foundation-l] Reminder: IRC office hours with the localization team tomorrow To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List <foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Hi all! Just a quick reminder that you're invited to join the WMF localization team at 1800 UTC tomorrow. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Steven Walling <swalling(a)wikimedia.org> Date: Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 10:46 AM Subject: IRC office hours with the localization team, on International Mother Language Day To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List <foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Hi everyone, I just wanted to give some advance notice about IRC office hours with the localization team [1] at the Wikimedia Foundation, which will be aptly held on International Mother Language Day.[2] Date: 2011-02-21 Time: 18.00 UTC Venue: #wikimedia-office As usual, more logistical info and time conversion links are available on Meta.[3] For a taste of what the localization team has been up to, I highly recommend the blog posts they've been writing regularly.[4] Thanks, and we'll talk to you later this month! -- Steven Walling, Wikimedia Foundation 1. https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Localisation_team 2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Mother_Language_Day 3. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours 4. http://blog.wikimedia.org/c/technology/features/internationalization-and-lo… -- Steven Walling https://wikimediafoundation.org/ _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

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Problematic automated tweets
by A 21 Feb '12

21 Feb '12

Tonight the Twitter account @wikimediatech sent out two problematic tweets that began with "jfaritu," one of which contains a racial slur. Not sure who handles this, but please have someone look into it. Thanks.

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Announcement: Terry Chay joins WMF as Director of Features Engineering
by Erik Moeller 21 Feb '12

21 Feb '12

Hello all, It’s with great pleasure that I’m announcing that Terrence (Terry) Chay is joining the Wikimedia Foundation as Director of Features Engineering. Terry comes to us from Automattic, where he helped improve the WordPress.com user experience by implementing an A/B testing framework, improving the blog domain name registration process (which contributed to doubling the revenue for WordPress.com), creating better support mechanisms for fist-time users, and making many other changes. In that role, he was an individual contributor to the WordPress codebase. Before Automattic, Terry worked as an engineering manager and software architect for multiple start-ups and tech companies between 1999 and 2009, most recently at Tagged and Plaxo. He has a B.S. in Physics from the California Institute of Technology and an M.S. in Physics from the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC). If you’ve ever been to OSCON, you may have seen Terry present one of his infamous PHP talks there (he’s been invited back repeatedly for some reason). All in, he’s given more than 25 public talks about web development. He’s also a prolific blogger and photographer ( http://terrychay.com/ ), joining the nascent photography cabal at Wikimedia. As Director of Features Engineering, Terry will be responsible for helping ensure the success of some of our key feature teams: the visual editor team, the editor engagement team (including the article feedback project), and the fundraising engineering team. This announcement also means that Alolita Sharma will be transitioning into a new director-level role at the Wikimedia Foundation. While we’ve not finalized all details, the role will include responsibility for the internationalization team, for experimental features projects and technology evaluation. We’ll announce details about that shortly. I want to thank Alolita for her track record of excellent leadership at Wikimedia to-date. Note that Terry's not on wmfall yet, so CC him if you'd like to welcome him. Terry's first day will be February 27. Please join me in welcoming Terry to the Wikimedia movement. :-) All best, Erik -- Erik Möller VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate

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FW: Reminder: IRC office hours with the localization team 2011-02-21 18:00 UTC
by Siebrand Mazeland (WMF) 21 Feb '12

21 Feb '12

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Steven Walling <swalling at wikimedia.org> Date: Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 10:46 AM Subject: IRC office hours with the localization team, on International Mother Language Day To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List <foundation-l at lists.wikimedia.org> Hi everyone, I just wanted to give some advance notice about IRC office hours with the localization team [1] at the Wikimedia Foundation, which will be aptly held on International Mother Language Day.[2] Date: 2011-02-21 Time: 18.00 UTC Venue: #wikimedia-office As usual, more logistical info and time conversion links are available on Meta.[3] For a taste of what the localization team has been up to, I highly recommend the blog posts they've been writing regularly.[4] Thanks, and we'll talk to you later this month! -- Steven Walling, Wikimedia Foundation 1. https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Localisation_team 2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Mother_Language_Day 3. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours 4. http://blog.wikimedia.org/c/technology/features/internationalization-and-lo… -- Steven Walling https://wikimediafoundation.org/

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Where to host wikimedia related software projects
by Petr Bena 21 Feb '12

21 Feb '12

Hi folks, we have had some discussion with other devs of huggle and I have a question, what is the best location to host wikimedia related projects? Documentation / web pages (preferably a wiki), I guess most suitable is mww but that one should be for mediawiki only or not? I am talking about projects like awb, pywikipediabot, dotnetwikibot, bots, labs and many others. I think we should either create a category for these at mww or maybe create a new wiki just for various software projects and related documentation? I would rather prefer first option for now, because it's not so hard to maintain and I don't think there is really a need to open whole new wiki just for documentation and various wikimedia projects, like labs etc. Second question is where to host source code and files? Some projects are using 3rd providers, however there is an idea to move huggle repository to wikimedia git after it's set up, it would be good to have all sources on one place so that it's easier to find various projects people might be interested in.

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State of 1.18
by Rob Lanphier 21 Feb '12

21 Feb '12

Hi everyone, Here's where we are. We've got a lot of blockers listed below, though it's probably not as bad as it looks from the bug count. == Blocking stage 2 deployment (commons) == Javascript/Resource Loader Tim did a bunch of work in this general area today. I'm hopeful Roan will have some time to review this work and we can all verify that this cleans up a bunch of issues. http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34450 -- Probable Javascript loading issues (navigation and tabbing issues, multiple browsers) http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34409 -- 'mw.user.options' and 'mw.user.tokens' are sometimes empty on 1.19, breaking watchlist, gadgets, etc. http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34517 -- Sometimes scripts imported by mw.loader.load on common.js are not executed http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34504 -- [Regression] There should not be a mismatch between html and stylesheet version Logging and permissions Mark and Antoine made a fix to one logging issue, and I puttered around on the larger IRC problem. http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34508 -- [Regression] IRC string output for log messages no longer compatible http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34503 -- Users without the autopatrol right are being autopatrolled on simple.wikipedia == Blocking stage 3 deployment (all projects except Wikipedia) == No additional bugs. == Blocking stage 4 deployment (all Wikipedia except enwiki) == http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34104 -- Schema changes for MediaWiki 1.19 deployment to Wikimedia wikis There are some master switches that need to happen on s1, s5 and s6 prior to deploying to enwiki, dewiki, ruwiki, frwiki == Important to figure out, but not blocking == http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34458 -- Editing fails in IE7 http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34478 -- Special:MergeAccount&action=submit generates error http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34469 -- (un)watch button broken (only in debug mode now) == Administrivia == http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33994 -- MediaWiki 1.19 pre WMF deployment actions (tracking) == Query for 1.19 deploy blockers == https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&list_id=91… Etherpad: http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/119triage

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Info only: convenience patch of Extension:OpenID
by Thomas Gries 20 Feb '12

20 Feb '12

RE: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:OpenID I commited a new version - no new features, no need to download it - of the MediaWiki OpenID extension, now at version 1.001 and updated the documentation on MediaWiki. The reshaped Makefile downloads the php library from my fork - which comprises the patch; thus the former patch after downloading from Github is no longer required. The new method will facilitate forthcoming upgrading of the php-openid library on which the extension relies.

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