Wikitech-l October 2008

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question aobut uploading file
by Ting Wang 11 Oct '08

11 Oct '08

Hallo, till now, if the user want to upload file or a picture during writing an article, he has to save the article and goto upload page, upload file and then go back to the article and add an image token. This waste just time, so i want to write an extension, with it users can upload file of picture during writing article. And I want to use standart uploading function of Mediawiki. I found include/UploadBase.php and include/UploadFormUpload.php in the svn of Mediawiki, but I can not find some document about how to using these classes. Through the svn log, I just found these file will be used for SpecialUpload. Ok, here is actully my question: 1. Is there some code or document about how to use these classes? 2. whether the classes fully implemented the function of specialupload? thanks

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Why Ubuntu?
by nsk 11 Oct '08

11 Oct '08

Le samedi 11 octobre 2008 à 01:20 +0000, wikitech-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org a écrit : > From: "Aryeh Gregor" <Simetrical+wikilist(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Why Ubuntu? > 080511 15:35:42 <Simetrical> mark, why Ubuntu? > 080511 15:39:28 <mark> it's debian but with predictable release cycles > 080511 15:44:36 <mark> at some point ubuntu got all hyped and I saw an > opportunity to get everyone convinced to use something debian based <DebianFanBoyMode fanaticism="high"> Pfff. Real men use Debian, the real thing, not the "debian based" hype. :) </DebianFanBoyMode> I use Debian GNU/Linux for my desktops and laptops (lenny/testing with some sid/unstable plus custom things) and servers (etch/stable with some volatile and custom things) and I am very happy, never had any problem, always serving me with great stability and security. At some point I had tried Ubuntu for desktops/laptops/servers and very quickly I replaced it with Debian for all machines (desktops/laptops/servers), never looking back. May I ask whether you really tried Debian at all in the Wikimedia server farm before choosing Ubuntu? -- Thanks, NSK Nikolaos S. Karastathis, http://karastathis.org/

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Why Ubuntu?
by nsk 10 Oct '08

10 Oct '08

I learn that you recently moved to an all-Ubuntu platform. May I ask whether you compared Ubuntu with Debian and whether you considered Ubuntu better for your purposes than Debian? Exactly what weaknesses Debian has compared to Ubuntu for your purposes? -- Thanks, NSK Nikolaos S. Karastathis, http://karastathis.org/

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$wpEditToken = "+\\";
by Tei 10 Oct '08

10 Oct '08

Reading the wikipedia html output, I have found that EditPage.php produce "+\" has the value for wpEditToken. This token seens supposedly random, to stop spammers to fill the wikipedia with viagra links. But It don't seems much random to me, on all computers I have tested, it seems constant to "+\" Is that a code bug, or maybe misconfiguration on the wikipedia guys?. Un saludo.

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A better metric than edit counts
by nsk 10 Oct '08

10 Oct '08

Regarding http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki?view=rev&revision=41921 I congratulate the decision to make it off by default. However, I think we could code a better alternative (perhaps in addition to the edit counts, sine other mediawiki users may want them): instead of counting edits, let's count how many characters each user added or changed in the wikitext database. Counting characters added or changed is much more indicative of the contributions of users than mere edit counts, although not perfect. It should be easy to code, considering that the software already counts it in diffs/rc (albeit also taking deletions into account). -- Thanks, NSK Nikolaos S. Karastathis, http://karastathis.org/

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PHP 5.2.7RC1 Testing
by Ilia Alshanetsky 10 Oct '08

10 Oct '08

Hello! You are receiving this email because your project has been selected to take part in a new effort by the PHP QA Team to make sure that your project still works with PHP versions to-be-released. With this we hope to make sure that you are either aware of things that might break, or to make sure we don't introduce any strange regressions. With this effort we hope to build a better relationship between the PHP Team and the major projects. If you do not want to receive these heads-up emails, please reply to me personally and I will remove you from the list; but, we hope that you want to actively help us making PHP a better and more stable tool. The first release candidate of PHP 5.2.7 was just released and can be downloaded from http://downloads.php.net/ilia/. Please try this release candidate against your code and let us know if any regressions should you find any. The goal is to have 5.2.7 out within two to three weeks time, so timely testing would be extremely helpful. In case you think that other projects should also receive this kinds of emails, please let me know privately, and I will add them to the list of projects to contact. Best Regards, Ilia Alshanetsky 5.2 Release Master

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Patch needs review
by Remember the dot 09 Oct '08

09 Oct '08

Hello, Could we get a developer at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11686 to review the patch that's been submitted there? The patch has already been written, tested, and debugged, so it'd be great if we could get a developer to take a look. -- Remember the dot http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Remember_the_dot

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Re: [Wikitech-l] OpenID
by Jonathan Leybovich 09 Oct '08

09 Oct '08

Sebastian Moleski wrote: > I understand *what* people want to do with it. What I don't understand > is *why. What benefit does OpenID provide over just registering with > your usual user name and password at any site? Besides the advantages others have cited (improved security, usability, etc.) OpenID offers the best way to give liquidity to the credentials I have earned as a Wikipedia editor. It would be relatively easy for any website to confirm I am an expert in pre-vertebrate paleontology, for example, by cross-referencing my user id with my edit history. The only missing ingredient is being able to confirm that when I come to a site claiming to be User:XYZ I am in fact User:XYZ .

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Local replication
by Bilal Abdul Kader 09 Oct '08

09 Oct '08

Hi, I am trying to replicate Wikipedia locally with the history and the editing tracking. The total DB might be extremely large. It is possible to do that on a single server with 8 CPUs (Xeon) and 32 GB or RAM and Linux CentOS? Thanks in advance for all your time and answers. bilal

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Re: [Wikitech-l] nostalgia skin: gathering ideas for an improved version
by nsk 09 Oct '08

09 Oct '08

Le mercredi 08 octobre 2008 à 20:17 +0000, wikitech-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org a écrit : > From: Huji <huji.huji(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] nostalgia skin: gathering ideas for a > improved version > > There are many other issues with Nostalgia skin too. I never played with it > until recently, when I fixed a bug in its printable version. yeah I remember your fix as I reported that bug, thanks for fixing it so quickly! I immediatelly grabbed your fix from svn for my wikis as I am adventurous enough to run on HEAD :) I also use Nostalgia on Wikipedia though, and I wonder when your fix will make it there, as I see the Wikimedia wikis are still in 41337. I can't properly print a Wikipedia page without switching skins as it is now :( > Nostalgia should be rewritten some day. that was my idea also. someday it ought to be rewritten to become more modernised from a coding perspective, and maybe also from a user interface perspective while keeping the same general oldish look. > From: Brion Vibber <brion(a)wikimedia.org> > Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] nostalgia skin: gathering ideas for a > improved version > > Nostalgia roughly replicates the pre-MediaWiki interface of Wikipedia. > It's not really meant for usability. ;) Nostalgic Wikipedians want a usable skin, too! :) It is not necessary to replicate the old wiki look so much as to make Nostalgia unusable or put its users at a disadvantage compared to the other skins. I think we can replicate the old look without sacrificing much usability. I think it is important to provide the same functionality to Nostalgia users that users of other skins enjoy, such as user pages links (15868), a search box that can be used with Ajax easily (15902), an upload link that can be middleclicked in a new tab (15903), perhaps even a Discussion link at the top of the page as well (15905). As I use Nostalgia I may end up improving it a bit, and I will share any improvements as patches on bugzilla. > > PS: I have put a quick patch (15868) on bugzilla to include user pages > > in Nostalgia. > > Doesn't sound terribly disruptive. Note that preferences and watchlist > are already available through the special pages dropdown, though. I was thinking about this while I was getting the patch ready, and finally decided that the most important user-related pages that are available as links in other skins should also be available as links in Nostalgia as well. This helps users of Nostalgia enjoy the same user experience as users of other skins; for example, I can middleclick and open my watchlist in a new tab or new window with the other skins, but with Nostalgia I wouldn't be able to do this through the dropdown menu. In fact I now have the same problem with the upload link: in the other skins I was used to middleclicking the upload link so that I could upload using a new tab without replacing the page I was viewing. But with Nostalgia I only get the upload function in the dropdown menu. I will probably submit a small patch to add an upload link soon (15903). > Of course as the number of special pages has increased dramatically > since 2002, that drop-down has become rather unwieldy. I'm not sure > what's the best way to extend or replace this without dramatically > changing the layout. I am thinking along the same lines, but I am considering whether it is truly desirable to list all special pages in the drop down menu. Maybe just including a menu item leading to the list of all special pages, perhaps together with a small number of other frequently used special pages, would be enough. I would like to learn what other ideas or perceptions there are about Nostalgia as well. I would also be very interested to collect statistics regarding how many Wikipedia users use Nostalgia as their skin of choice, so I will submit a query request to see generally how much interest there would be for a better Nostalgia. -- Thanks, NSK Nikolaos S. Karastathis, http://karastathis.org/

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