Wikitech-l October 2006

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a table with links to commons
by David Monniaux 23 Oct '06

23 Oct '06

Hi, Would it be possible for e.g. Wikipedia pages to have a table for links to commons (and other projects), in the same way that there is a languagelinks table? (This is for building a tool for finding images more easily.) Thanks

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Code review + testing + comments sought: Internal image targets, external image targets, no image target.
by Nick Jenkins 23 Oct '06

23 Oct '06

Hi All, There's some functionality I'd welcome any testing of, and any code review comments that anyone would care to make. The functionality is image linking to something besides the image description page. (a.k.a. http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=539 ) The four modes are: # An External link. Example usage: [[Image:Google.gif|link=[http://www.google.com/]]] # An Internal link. Example usage: [[Image:Wikipedia.gif|link=[[Wikipedia]]]], or [[Image:Google.gif|link=[[:en:http://www.google.com/]]]] (yes, there is actually a "http://www.google.com/" redirect on the Wikipedia, which points to [[Google]] ). # No link. Example usage: [[Image:Wikipedia.gif|link=none]] # Linking to the image description page, as per current. To get this, omit the "link=" parameter. If you don't specify a link, then you just get the current default behaviour. Also the linking for each new type can be enabled or disabled separately in LocalSettings.php , so if you wanted say internal links + no links, but are worried about spam on external links, then you can enable just the 2 linking types you want. The default for all three options is off. Note that the "link=" does not work inside a <gallery>. However, this is consistent with all the other image attributes, like "right", "center", "thumb", "thumb=", "frame", and "left", none of which work inside galleries either. There is a temporary test wiki for you to try out on this stuff located at: http://theplaypit.nickj.org/wiki/ . Please feel free to modify whatever you like, or create any test pages or sandbox pages that you like, as I'm planning on killing that test wiki if/when these patches or any equivalent functionality patches are checked in (or in two weeks, whichever happens sooner). The only request I'd make is that you don't destroy the front page, so as to ensure that other people can easily see some examples of it being used there on the Main Page. The "svn diff" for the changes against SVN is at: http://files.nickj.org/MediaWiki/image-linking-diff.txt Also, this diff retains the current "longdesc" attribute for <img> tags (i.e. it's there for current images, and you still get it for images using link targets). To access this in Firefox, you right-click on an image, go to Properties, and in the popup box it will say "Description:" and give the URL for the image's description page. This means that you can still get to the image description page for an image, even if that images is linking off to somewhere else, or has no link. The "longdesc" tag is a W3C standard img attribute ( for more info see: http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/objects.html#adef-longdesc-IMG ). I also want to send a big acknowledgement out to Rowan Collins. Rowan, if you're out there somewhere, your patches were extremely helpful to me - so thank you! All the best, Nick.

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Using CSS display:none and speak:none
by Ligulem 22 Oct '06

22 Oct '06

People on en.wikipedia.org constantly invent new applications of the display:none CSS client side hiding hack. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki%3ACommon.css&diff=82918… http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki%3ALinkshere&diff=828925… http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki%3APagemovedtext&diff=82… As we know, this has some well known drawbacks as described at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:HiddenStructure (which Brion also advised against). It was also Graham (see also his previous thread) who also advised against using this. Occasionally, people revert warred hiddenStructure (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki%3ACommon.css&diff=81176…) back into templates with the argument that blind users are a minority. Suggestions on how to deal with this situation are welcome. I for one would love to simply have CSS display:none and speak:none filtered out by MediaWiki software (possibly with a config parameter per site installation). --Ligulem

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Feature request: "single block"
by Piotr "Derbeth" Kubowicz 21 Oct '06

21 Oct '06

Single login is said to be coming soon, but what about unifying other things beyond just logging in? From my experience as sysop at several Wikipedia sister projects (Polish: Wikibooks, Wikinews, Wiktionary; English Wikibooks), significant part of vandals are coming from Wikipedia, just after being blocked there. Another problem is open proxies: English Wikipedia blocks many of them, but this process is not synchronised with other language editions and sister projects and as a result spammers and vandals can play cat and mouse with admins there using IPs that are infinitely blocked on English Wikipedia since a long time. In fact, Wikimedia's open proxy policy is not working at all - blacklist on for example Meta is available, but there is a separate one on English Wikipedia and people just don't have time to apply all these blocks everywhere. For me, it is logical that block of IP number should be common to all Wikimedia projects. Allowing this would have a large impact on number of vandalisms in sister projects. -- Piotr 'Derbeth' Kubowicz Jabber id: derbeth(a)jabber.wp.pl Pomóż Wikibooks stworzyć największy zbiór otwartych podręczników! http://pl.wikibooks.org/ Opera - the fastest browser on Earth! http://www.opera.com/

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Inconsistency in import results?
by Felipe Ortega 21 Oct '06

21 Oct '06

Hi all. I remember something about this posted aprox a year ago, but now we have new software versions so... There's something strange when I try to import dumps. I've downloaded latest version of mwdumper.jar. I get a full .7z dump (for research purposes) of, let's say, svwiki. Well, I create a new database, build the 29 tables with the tables.sql script (but remove the InnoDB type of tables, due to some compatibility problems in our MySQL, I think it doesn't mind). Ok, I launch mwdumper.jar with the appropiate parameters, things go on and finally obtain: 373,142 pages (228.901/sec), 2,659,777 revs (1,631.616/sec) As it should be. But when I log on in svwiki database in MySQL it says: mysql> select count(page_id) from page; +----------------+ | count(page_id) | +----------------+ | 30000 | +----------------+ 1 row in set (0.00 sec) mysql> select count(rev_id) from revision; +---------------+ | count(rev_id) | +---------------+ | 722180 | +---------------+ 1 row in set (0.00 sec) Far lower results. Shouldn't I get the same figures? Anyone could help? When I fix this problem, I've built a functional script to recover per user statistics of contributions in several periods of time (months, weeks, etc...). Thanks everybody. Felipe. ______________________________________________ LLama Gratis a cualquier PC del Mundo. Llamadas a fijos y móviles desde 1 céntimo por minuto. http://es.voice.yahoo.com

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PHP 5.2.0RC6 Testing
by Ilia Alshanetsky 21 Oct '06

21 Oct '06

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Re: [Wikitech-l] content_actions.php
by ApostateAmish＠aol.com 21 Oct '06

21 Oct '06

Don't know the answer to Point of confusion #2, but #1 is fixed now in r17138 http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/docs/hooks.txt?r1=17… &r2=17137&pathrev=17138 ). All the best, Nick. Thanks for taking care of that. Point of confusion #2a was easy: I just commented out the call and the "view source" tab is gone from locked pages. For #2b -- to make the tab go away for unregistered users or for those otherwise not permitted to edit -- I'll need to read the code until I understand it better /** else { * $content_actions['viewsource'] = array( * 'class' => ($action == 'edit') ? 'selected' : false, * 'text' => wfMsg('viewsource'), * 'href' => $this->mTitle->getLocalUrl( $this->editUrlOptions() ) * ); * } */

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Re: [Wikitech-l] content_actions.php
by ApostateAmish＠aol.com 21 Oct '06

21 Oct '06

There's also an "extensions/examples/Content_action.php" file, which sounds like it may be particularly interesting to you. It's viewable via the web at: http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/examples/Content… tion.php?revision=12179&view=markup Hope that helps. All the best, Nick. Thanks for finding the file and finding instances of the content_actions array. That helps some. Point of confusion #1 for me appears to have been whether the referenced file was in the distribution I downloaded, or on the CVS/viewvc directory you cited. I had looked there as well, but it has moved from extensions/... to extensions/examples... , thus my confusion. I'm not up to altering things over there just yet, but for someone who makes it easy, that path might best be revised in the hooks.txt file where I found the reference. Point of confusion #2 was my hope that content_action.php would be a repository of keys to the instantiation logic, rather than an example of how to add tabs. I was hoping to find something like MediaWiki:Sidebar where I could use text to describe what tab appears when. Unfortunately, it seems I'll have to think my way out of this one instead. The example in content_action.php of how to add an edit tab might illuminate my study of how to remove the tabs. I only want them to appear on particular pages for users who have edit privileges for those particular pages. The if/else that replaces "edit" with "view source" is one place to start poking around, but that only seems to respond affirmatively to page protection. Conceptually, it seems easy enough to change the "else" action that returns "view source" so it simply doesn't render the tag at all, but that only allows the tag to be removed from protected pages. I'll probably need to find the logic that returns a "not logged in" message when log-in is required, then move the check-for-log-in status (or other edit permissions) so that it checks before rendering the tab. My code might not be pretty, but if nobody else has developed this functionality, it might be worth my while to carve it out.

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MediaWiki automated test run failure 2006-10-21
by brion＠pobox.com 21 Oct '06

21 Oct '06

An automated run of parserTests.php showed the following failures: Running test TODO: Table security: embedded pipes (http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2006-April/034637.html)... FAILED! Running test TODO: Link containing double-single-quotes '' (bug 4598)... FAILED! Running test TODO: Template with thumb image (with link in description)... FAILED! Running test TODO: message transform: <noinclude> in transcluded template (bug 4926)... FAILED! Running test TODO: message transform: <onlyinclude> in transcluded template (bug 4926)... FAILED! Running test BUG 1887, part 2: A <math> with a thumbnail- math enabled... FAILED! Running test TODO: HTML bullet list, unclosed tags (bug 5497)... FAILED! Running test TODO: HTML ordered list, unclosed tags (bug 5497)... FAILED! Running test TODO: HTML nested bullet list, open tags (bug 5497)... FAILED! Running test TODO: HTML nested ordered list, open tags (bug 5497)... FAILED! Running test TODO: Parsing optional HTML elements (Bug 6171)... FAILED! Running test TODO: Inline HTML vs wiki block nesting... FAILED! Running test TODO: Mixing markup for italics and bold... FAILED! Running test TODO: 5 quotes, code coverage +1 line... FAILED! Running test TODO: HTML Hex character encoding.... FAILED! Running test TODO: dt/dd/dl test... FAILED! Passed 421 of 437 tests (96.34%) FAILED!

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content_actions.php
by ApostateAmish＠aol.com 21 Oct '06

21 Oct '06

A hooks.txt file in a recent distribution of MediaWiki refers to a content_actions.php file, which supposedly exposes instantiation logic of edit tabs at the top of the page. I find no such file in that distribution. Am I missing something, or will I need to write original code to gain control of those ubiquitous tabs?

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