Wikitech-l June 2004

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Chinese WP fonts unreadably small
by ZH Wikipedia 03 Jun '04

03 Jun '04

Dear skin designer-developer(s), Chinese characters have many many more strokes than Roman letters. So the current MonoBook font size at Chinese WP is very hard on the eye. Almost every single Chinese user who experienced the skin have pointed out that the font size's difficult to read. Please increase it to at least 11pt so ZH WP is ... minimally readable. Xiexie, Menchi

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Significant section editing bug?
by Rich Holton 03 Jun '04

03 Jun '04

I just had a very disturbing experience on meta. I was editing a section of "MediaWiki 1.3 comments and bug reports." While I was editing, someone else apparently added a new section above the one that I was editing. When I saved my edits, it overwrote the section previous to mine, and left unchanged the section that I intended to edit. The results were a lost section, and two sections in a row of the same title, with the newer revision followed by the older revision. The edit I made originally: http://meta.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=MediaWiki_1.3_comments_and_bug… (saved: 15:32, 3 Jun 2004) -Rich Holton (User:Rholton) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/

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DifferenceEngine and ISO nbsp
by Nikola Smolenski 03 Jun '04

03 Jun '04

define('NBSP', "\xA0"); // iso-8859-x non-breaking space. I've never witnessed that this is causing any trouble, but shouldn't it cause trouble on non-ISO Wikipedias? Shouldn't it be best that it is changed to " " which would work everywhere?

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Number of articles function
by Ray Saintonge 03 Jun '04

03 Jun '04

It seems that as a by-product of being a bureaucrat on English Wiktionary, I'm starting to be asked technical questions about the operations of the new other language Wiktionaries. These are well beyond my expertise. Ronline from the Romanian Wiktionary has pointed out that the ((NUMBEROFARTICLES)) function on that Main Page gives only the number "-1". That also seems to be the case in several other new Wiktionaries. While checking this I also noticed that the list of all articles by title in same projects also comes up blank. Perhaps someone more capable might look at this. Ec

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request "sysop" status on zh-cfr/minnan
by Pochung(Pektiong) Chen(Tan) 03 Jun '04

03 Jun '04

Hi there, Can I obtain the "sysop" privilege on zh-cfr/minnan.wikipedia.org so that I can continue to coordinate the interface L10N? We have done some of the translation but now the system message pages are locked, and we can't continue the L10N work. my username is pektiong http://minnan.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Pektiong best pektiong

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Parser testing page
by erik_moeller＠gmx.de 03 Jun '04

03 Jun '04

I've created a page for testing and debugging our parser: http://meta.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parser_testing It's far from complete, but anyone with a knowledge of our syntax can add to it and I hope it grows into something useful. So if you want to help debugging the software but don't know how, please contribute here. There should be one section for each test. A test can consist of a variety of individual cases, all of which should be added first as <pre>..</pre>, then verbatim, so that the difference between user input and parser output can be seen. One bug I noticed is that mixed lists seem to no longer work, unless I'm missing something. I also think that we shouldn't use stuff like "left" and "50px" as image alt text. It's not always obvious what we *want* our behavior to be. Right now I'm assuming that everything the parser does is correct unless the result is really strange. Kudos to Jens for the image caption parsing code, it seems to grok almost anything. Regards, Erik

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Status with Will
by Ivan Krstic 02 Jun '04

02 Jun '04

An update regarding Will (one of the new 1Us): due to previous overheating problems, jeronim had shut down will yesterday. We suspected a disconnected fan or other airflow problems. Earlier today, Jimbo visited the colo and found that the fans were working very well, and that there were no visible airflow issues. After he left, we continued having temperature problems: PU1: Temperature above threshold CPU0: Temperature above threshold CPU0: Running in modulated clock mode CPU1: Running in modulated clock mode The CPU was running at about 62 celsius, which while not horrible is not temperature that we want to run a production server on. I suggested that the machine be powered off until we can look at it further, and jeronim did so at about 7:15PM EST. There's some consensus that the next most likely problem is an unseated (or improperly seated) heatsink, while the less likely option is a bad CPU. Jimbo mentioned a person in Florida who might be able to come to the colo and help us out, so that's our plan of action for the moment. Cheers, Ivan.

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Monobook
by Ralph Ballier 02 Jun '04

02 Jun '04

Hello, I have install mediawiki. Where I can get skin monobook? How I have to install a skin? I am very new for mediawiki. Greetings Ralph

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404 Handler Caching Revisited
by Evan Prodromou 02 Jun '04

02 Jun '04

So, I mentioned the idea of doing 404-handler caching on this list a while ago. There's a page about it on meta: http://meta.wikipedia.org/wiki/404_handler_caching I coded up a very simple Wiki engine that uses this technique, just to prove to myself it would work. It does, and quite nicely. The code is here for anyone who wants to take a peek: http://wikitravel.org/~evan/wormwiki-0.1.tar.gz I'm going to try to shoehorn this code into MediaWiki in the near future. I think it should significantly reduce load on servers. ~ESP -- Evan Prodromou <evan(a)wikitravel.org> Wikitravel - http://wikitravel.org/en/ The free, complete, up-to-date and reliable world-wide travel guide

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doBlockLevels and stripping <nowiki>
by Jens Frank 02 Jun '04

02 Jun '04

Tim asked me to write this mail some 10 hours ago. In a hurry, I didn't press the "send" button and just found this open edit window when returning home. So this is for documentation purposes only. Regards, jens ----------------------------------8<-------------------------- Hello, due to some changes, doBlockLevels() is called after unstrip(). This results in some trouble with <nowiki>, esp. <nowiki>* this is a line that starts with an asterisk</nowiki> Yesterday's fix to this broke other things: *this is <nowiki>rendered as a line with a star!</nowiki> instead of a bulleted line. Other text completely disappeared. (SF BUG #964477) I changed the code to insert the <nowiki> again when unstripping and call strip() a second time inside of doBlockLevels. The transclusion-strips will be unfolded, and <nowiki> is folded again. This has two downsides: * illegal HTML-Tags are added (<nowiki> is still in the output) * it's not that efficient to call strip twice This is a workaround to address the current bugs and should be looked at by someone with more than 20 minutes time. Regards, jeluf

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