Wikitech-l April 2004

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"Powered by MediaWiki"
by Dan Carlson 11 Apr '04

11 Apr '04

I was doing a little bit of fiddling around with my site's layout this evening, and I had an idea that someone more involved in the MediaWiki development might be interested -- a couple of little "powered by" badges that people can add to their site layout to show their support for this excellent software. I've quickly tossed together some ideas based on a couple of images I "borrowed" from the MediaWiki SourceForge page -- they're just a rough idea, so if anyone wants to develop the idea further, they're welcome to it. I can pass on the original Fireworks .png files, though it might be better to use the original source files, 'specially since I don't have the exact font used for the word "MediaWiki" and had to approximate to create the "Powered By" part. Let me know what you think! Dan Carlson

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IE 24-bit PNG transparency
by Brion Vibber 10 Apr '04

10 Apr '04

IE for Windows doesn't support 24-bit transparent PNGs normally, but with some hacking you can use a roundabout method to display them on IE5.5+: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;294714 I managed to get the logo in MonoBook displaying with transparency by sticking this hack into the IEFixes.css: #portlet-logo a, #portlet-logo a:hover { background-image: none; cursor: hand; filter:progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.AlphaImageLoader(src='/ ~brion/rel1.3/stylesheets/monobook/wiki.png',sizingMethod='crop'); } Unfortunately it seems to want a URL relative to the HTML page, not the stylesheet, so we can't hard-code it in the file. It could perhapsbe hacked in at runtime by JavaScript (yuck!), or by a <style> block embedded in every page with a conditional comment (yuck!) For <img>s in the page, there's a very nice JavaScript fragment which will walk through the page and replace them with hacked up <span>s at load time without much other effort. May be worth looking at: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/bobosola/pngtestfixed.htm -- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Postgres suport for MediaWiki
by Ivan Krstic 10 Apr '04

10 Apr '04

Hi Bernhard, it's very arguable what exactly is meant by "more professional". Generally speaking, speed is MySQL's forte, and is also what MediaWiki has a great need for (particularly with Wikipedia). The magazine articles you've read were probably referring to some of the more "enterprise" features (MySQL for a long time did not support transactions, and replication was dubious at best) which MediaWiki doesn't really need. I don't personally think there is much benefit in letting the code use Postgres, but if you're willing to put in the effort - hey, great, send a patch. As for the MediaWiki table structure, while I'm sure we can help with problems you might encounter, it might be easier for you to install, temporarily, MySQL on one of your machines. MySQL binaries are available for a slew of operating systems and architectures, so it shouldn't take very long. Cheers, Ivan >>> Bernhard.Naegele(a)t-online.de 03/27/04 12:02 PM >>> [...] In every article about Open Databases I read, that Postgres is a more professional database than MySQL, so I wonder that there is no interrest in suporting also Postgresql, or is there also interrest? However, I have a running Postgres database and I want to run also a Wiki Wiki. The question for me is now if I should take PHPWiki which has Postgres support or if I should spend some time in enhancing MediaWiki. At the moment, it seams that MediaWiki has more interesting features than PHPWiki....... So my first question: Was there a demand for Postgres in the past? Second: Is there anyone who can suport me if I have some question about MySQL (table-structure of MediaWiki) support of MediaWiki? I don't want to install also MySQL on some of my computers...... Best regards, Bernhard _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)Wikipedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

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Re: [MediaWiki-CVS] phase3/includes Parser.php, 1.74, 1.75
by Brion Vibber 10 Apr '04

10 Apr '04

On Apr 10, 2004, at 03:46, Erik Moeller wrote: > ! $state["strong"] = $state["em"] = $token["pos"]; > ! $state["strong"] = $state["em"] = isset($token["pos"]) ? > $token["pos"] : true; Maybe it's just because it's late, but those don't look like they do the same thing to me. An unset variable evaluates to boolean false, not true. -- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

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Possible bug
by Arvind Narayanan 09 Apr '04

09 Apr '04

Hi, See http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User:Arvindn/Chess&oldid=3122727 The footer is displaced to the right (in Gecko; haven't checked anything else). At the same time the indents in the discussion to the right of the image at the bottom are not showing. I think the two might be related. Arvind -- Its all GNU to me

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Preferences
by Brion Vibber 09 Apr '04

09 Apr '04

Just a warning; Special:Preferences in cvs head is currently a bit messy. I'm partway through reorganizing it into more sensible groupings of options, but this ain't totally done yet. It may also be worth dumping a few of the toggles that do useless or undesireable things. I'll also mention before I forget it again that the sidebar position option doesn't work on MonoBook. In addition to the prominent user preference for it, right-to-left languages (Arabic, Hebrew, Farsi, Urdu, etc) use a right-hand sidebar by default, so we need to at least have that ability to maintain user interface handedness. -- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

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New db server
by Jimmy Wales 09 Apr '04

09 Apr '04

Going under the assumption that we will be buying a new db server to replace geoffrin, please everyone take a look at: http://www.siliconmechanics.com/ and help me decide on a suitable configuration. Assume a budget of $9,000-$10,000, but don't hesitate to go under (of course!) or over (if for a good reason!). There have been several requests (from more than one person, or just from one person) for 15k spindle drives. Is that a universal consensus? I find it hard to imagine that faster drives is really pertinent, because just about any problem that can be solved with faster drives can be solved better with more ram? But, that's a very simplistic view on my part, so I could easily be convinced otherwise. RAID 10? That's what geoffrin had, and it was sweet. But RAID 5 would give more disk space, right? What are our disk requirements for the db server? Let's be generous with ourselves here. But, also let's think about whether disk space needs might in some cases be better handled by a big slow cheap SATA storage server? If we're in need of other new hardware, now is a good time to order that as well. We have a crucial responsibility to be good stewards of our donor's money. That means two things -- first, we don't buy hardware just because it sounds cool, but to meet specific needs. But second, the money wasn't given to us to sit in the bank forever, it's to give the donors what they want -- a fast fast wikipedia. So we should not be cheapskates, either. --Jimbo p.s. Quotes or recommendations for other vendors are welcome, but I'd like to take action quickly, so it would be good to talk about configurations from a single site (siliconmechanics) and then also look around for better pricing or service or ??? elsewhere.

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Re: [MediaWiki-CVS] phase3/includes Title.php, 1.38, 1.39
by Brion Vibber 08 Apr '04

08 Apr '04

On Apr 8, 2004, at 14:08, Gabriel Wicke wrote: > removed an apparently complicated way to trim whitespace off, also > threw php notices ... > ! $t = preg_replace( "/[\\s_]+/", "_", trim($this->mDbkeyform) ); This now fails given something like "_blah_". -- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

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Re: [MediaWiki-CVS] phase3/maintenance interwiki.sql, 1.4, 1.5 wikipedia-interwiki.sql, 1.7, 1.8
by Brion Vibber 08 Apr '04

08 Apr '04

On Apr 8, 2004, at 13:50, Andre Engels wrote: > --- 1,111 ---- > ! ï»¿-- Based more or less on the public interwiki map from > MeatballWiki Please don't check in files with a byte-order mark (created by some Windows utilities such as Notepad). These can confuse programs that expect actual data in their data. Also, please don't add a blank space to the end of every line. It makes the diffs illegible. -- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

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coronelli offline
by Jens Frank 08 Apr '04

08 Apr '04

<JeLuF> brion: Coronelli is currently offline. 02:02 brion: goody <JeLuF> brion: Jimbo replaced the 512MB chip with a 1GB one since he assumed the memory - might not be the right one for that board and might be the cause of the - occassional trouble we've got <JeLuF> starting squid, the machine died within approximately 6 seconds. <JeLuF> currently, the box is running memtest <JeLuF> the memtest floppy has been removed from the disk drive, so if you power cycle - coronelli using the APC, it will start linux. 02:05 brion: JeLuF: ok. could you fwd that to wikitech? <JeLuF> In case of emergency, Jimbo has allowed wikipedia to make use of curly.bomis.com. - Remote root login is enabled and the password is "the standard wikipedia one".

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