"Tim Starling" <ts4294967296(a)hotmail.com> schrieb:
>
> Timwi wrote:
> > Evan Prodromou wrote:
> >
> > >>>>>>"T" == Timwi <timwi(a)gmx.net> writes:
> > >
> > > T> No matter what throttling you choose, I will hit the limit at
> > > T> some point, I'm sure...
> > >
> > > Well, y'know, I'd question whether you could do a sustained 2 edits
> > > per second, like the zh flooding bot. If so, you need to get some
> > > other hobbies. B-)
> >
> > Do you know that browsers have the capability of opening several windows
> > or (often) tabs?
> >
> > If I need to add, say, a {{msg:}} to a range of pages, or remove it from
> > them, or anything like that, then yes, I will probably hit about 2 edits
> > per second.
>
> I've done similar batch jobs, and I haven't been able to hit 2 per second.
> Maybe one every 2-3 seconds. But say if you can do two per second. Can you
> do 10 per second? 20? 50? 100? We've got to put a limit in somewhere, or
> else improved Wikimedia hardware will leave us vulnerable to extremely high
> edit rate attacks.
There's another side to that coin though. When dealing with the previous
bot attacks, I have done like 20 edits within 2 or 3 seconds while reverting.
It would be rather wry irony if measures against vandalism would slow down
the fighting against vandalism...
Apart from that occasion, I have never had sustained rates over 1 per 2-3
seconds. That number was got doing a particularly easy disambiguation using
a human-interfaced bot.
If the throttle is really a throttle - that is, the edit is only delayed,
I would say that even a throttle of 1 per second would not give undue
problems. Sure, people sometimes hit the 'submit' button faster when working
in multiple screens/tabs, but I don't think that waiting 10 seconds for the
last one to get through when doing 10 edits at once should bother too much -
especially since the first one will come without delay, and the next 3
within 3 seconds. Still, there is the vandalism fight problem mentioned
above. So perhaps we should switch off throttling for sysop rollbacks?
Andre Engels