Wikitech-l November 2004

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subpages are case sensitive (first character)
by Reinhardt Wiewe 28 Nov '04

28 Nov '04

Dear friends, Please take a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gangleri/tests/links . Please note that http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gangleri/tests/Links (with capital "L") is another page in the namespace. Questions: a) what is your opinion about what normal users think about this (because the first character of a page in a namespace can be written both with upper and lower case)? b) are any plans to change this? c) if changes would be made there maight be conflicts with "subpages" existing already (both starting with a capital and a lower case letter). Regards Reinhardt

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Requst for a wikibot mailing lists
by Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason 26 Nov '04

26 Nov '04

Would it be possible to get a bot mailing list at wikipedia? wikibot-l(a)wikimedia.org perhaps, the only such mailing list at the moment is the pywikipediabot mailing list, however that one is used for CVS commits and discussions about the code in general. The list would be used for bot discussion and coordination specific to wikipedia projects, the posting of warnfiles and so on. Note that i do not desire to admin or in any way oversee this mailing list, i'd just like it to exist. Thanks.

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Custom Namespaces
by Randy Becker 25 Nov '04

25 Nov '04

I've attempted to follow the directions on meta, but they seem to be out of date. The variable mentioned seems to no longer be in the code. Where and how can I add a custom namespace? -Randy

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Fwd: Strange watchlist items
by Troels Arvin 25 Nov '04

25 Nov '04

Hello, On wikipedia-l, I asked a question, and Mathias Schindler stated that the discussion was probably better suited for wikitech-l. In wikipedia-l, Troels Arvin wrote: >> Hello, >> >> Today, I reviewed my (complete) watchlist. I found some strange, >> non-existing pages on it: >> >> ClockWorkNigger >> George Wanker Bush >> Pinux >> Template:AAERGilbDFgoui >> >> I can't recall ever having encountered such pages. How could such items >> have been added to my watchlist? - And Mathias Schindler replied: > As far as I understand Mediawiki, this could have happened this way: > > you have [[George Walker Bush]] on your watchlist. > a troll moves the page to [[George Wanker Bush]]. > > Mediawiki is keeping the Watchlist entry and adds a new one for the > new page on the old name. > > If this gets reverted, the lists could mess up. This is likely an > issue to discuss on the tech-list. I wonder if an developer could > falsify my speculations. > > Mathias -- Greetings from Troels Arvin, Copenhagen, Denmark

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Re: [Wikipedia-l] Wikipedia off-line
by John Lee 25 Nov '04

25 Nov '04

Sounds infeasible to me; resolving the edit conflicts would be disastrous. If we get a genius on this, it's plausible, but until then, it seems unlikely. I'm CCing this to Wikitech-l to see if they can have a go at this, though. John Lee ([[en:User:Johnleemk]]) James R. Johnson wrote: >I was thinking about how I could work on Wikipedia offline, and though it >would be great to have a stand-alone wikipedia client, which a wiki-user >could download that would allow him to download wikipedia content, edit it >while offline, then upload it when he gets to an internet connection. The >user would set it to download either new, edited, or any other type of pages >changed since his last upload. > > > >What do you think? > > > >James > >_______________________________________________ >Wikipedia-l mailing list >Wikipedia-l(a)Wikimedia.org >http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l > > >

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2BuyGood.com/InfoPedia
by Rich Holton 25 Nov '04

25 Nov '04

The site 2BuyGood.com/InfoPedia (http://www.2buygood.com/wiki/) is grabbing live content from the English Wikipedia, but gives no link back to Wikipedia, no history or authorship information, no GFDL information, and claims copyright. The site actually attempts to prevent copying text from the site by capturing right-clicks. I'm not clear about the entire implications of grabbing content live from Wikipedia, but it seems wrong to me, especially when it is so blatantly GFDL non-compliant. While we work on GFDL issues, could a developer block the live content grabs? Thanks. Rich Holton (en.wikipedia:user:rholton) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail

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Enotif and related work: an intermediate work progress report
by Thomas Gries 25 Nov '04

25 Nov '04

I have almost finished the work for Enotif (Email notification for page changes) see http://bugzilla.wikipedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=454 . I touched and solved the following other important issues (inter alia) - the table user_newtalk is now dropped and no longer needed http://bugzilla.wikipedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=581 (user-talk pages are treated as any other page) - only authenticated email addresses will be used for mailing to http://bugzilla.wikipedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=866 (cycling through a dummy "I forgot my password" cycle) - this can be later combined with LDAP or similar authentication methods and single user login see http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/SUL and http://bugzilla.wikipedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57 and others ... ... ... - (rest of changes skipped for the sake of conciseness; you can read them later this week on my pages http://meta.wikipedia.org/Enotif ) Scheduled date for Enotif 2.00 for CVS: 30.11.2004 Please mail me, if you have questions.

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wikipedia diff tool
by a a 25 Nov '04

25 Nov '04

hi all I am new and have some questions. I want to use some of the tools provided im wikimedia but am a little lost when looking at the source code. I really like the diff tool. I would like to use it on some text files I have. Could you suggest a way to run your diff tool and some plain test files, not sure what functions to call first I would like to do this from a unix/linux command line. I would also like to keep the highlichting and font colors of the wikipedia but would like to have a basic format (no navigation, no wallpaper ect) Any help you could provide would be great! PS: I'm not sure I'm on this list so please send any replys directly to me as wel. thanx Andrew

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Ever considered something like Wikiroll?
by Jakob 25 Nov '04

25 Nov '04

Hi! Thinking about Blogrolls I wonder why "Wikirolls" aren't common yet. Here's the basic principle to include Wikirolls into MediaWiki. Create new columns in table interwiki: ALTER TABLE interwiki ADD iw_name varchar(255) NOT NULL default '', ADD iw_example varchar(255) NOT NULL default '', ADD iw_wikiroll BOOL NOT NULL; Update Wikis you want to occur in your wikiroll: UPDATE interwiki SET iw_name='MeatBall Wiki', iw_example='MeatballWiki', iw_wikiroll=1 WHERE iw_prefix='MeatBall'; Add new Wikis you want to occur in your wikiroll: INSERT INTO interwiki SET iw_prefix='my', iw_name='My Wiki', iw_url='http://www.mywiki.net/index.php/$1', iw_example='Welcome', iw_wikiroll=1 ; Get a list of your wikiroll to show in your wiki: SELECT iw_name, iw_prefix, iw_example FROM interwiki WHERE iw_wikiroll=1; code to transform to wiki table syntax has to be written Get a list of your wikiroll for OPML output: SELECT iw_name, iw_url FROM interwiki WHERE iw_wikiroll=1; code to transform to opml has to be written Greetings, Jakob

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Request for hosting and operator for Wikchatbot
by Walter Vermeir 24 Nov '04

24 Nov '04

The Wikchatbot is a bot for creating logs of a IRC-channel and putting those on line automatically. It used to make logs of the channel #nl.wikipedia and #deds (who offers the hosting for the logs). It is written and controlled by user Wilinckx of the dutch Wikipedia. User Wilinckx has left Wikipedia and has taken the bot off line. He is willing to transfer the bot. Those logs are considered a useful function and we would like to have them back on line. The bot is written in perl. I would like that the bot is hosted and operated by Wikimedia as a service for the Wikimedia projects who would like to have logs of there IRC-channels. I can also ask it to my friends at DeDS.nl for help about this but it would by more logical that a service for a Wikipedia can be done by Wikimedia. I do not know anything about the bot. You can contact Wikinckx about this; wilinckx AT belgacom DOT net -- [[w:nl:gebruiker:walter]]

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