>(Also, if one is blocked accidentally, it's not very
clear how to
>contact anybody about it. It tells you the username
of the person who
>made the block, but you can't leave a note on their
talk page. You
can't
>e-mail them through the "e-mail this user" function
because you're not
a
>logged-in user with an e-mail address set...)
That's why somebody added a link to
[[Wikipedia:Administrators]]
(at least on [[en:]]). Then they find the list of
administrators.
And they can't email mav, and they can't email Ilyanep
...
but they can email me! (And on a few occasions, they
have.)
--------
all right.
I thought it was time I was banned. So I am.
My IP is blocked. So Anthere can't edit any more.
Here's what I saw, the name of the banner (she does
not provide an email address on her page) and the
admin list (most not providing email address on this
list either)
So Anthere went to Tim page, and emailed him a
message. That worked.
Of course, if it is from a loggued-in user with no
email address, and naturally from an IP, no mail can
be send.
Well, I think it is bad, very bad, very very bad, that
blocked users are nearly unable to contact any one,
and usually not the banning sysop himself, since most
people do not give their email in clear.
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Toby wrote:
>That's why somebody added a link to
>[[Wikipedia:Administrators]] (at least on [[en:]]).
>Then they find the list of administrators.
>And they can't email mav, and they can't email
>Ilyanep ... but they can email me! (And on a few
>occasions, they have.)
Couldn't they still email me by using the "Email this user" link? AFAIK, any
blocked IP can still log-in and use that feature. Is this also true for
blocked user names?
I have a question for the techies: On the "Contact us" page on Wikibooks I
have a live mailto link to textbook-l, but I have obscured the displayed
email address like so:
[mailto:textbook-l@wikipedia.org textbook-l at wikipedia.org] (replace " at "
with @)
Is this enough to prevent spam bots from sniffing the email address?
If so then I'll change my "email" link on the Admin page accordingly.
-- Daniel Mayer (aka mav)
(CC'd to wikitech-l)
Guillaume Blanchard wrote:
> Can we have a [[Wikipedia:Preferences]] page that will be the header of the
> [[Special:Preferences]] page ? (like [[Wikipedia:RecentChanges]] and
> [[Special:RecentChanges]]).
> In fact it may be very cool if all [[Special:xxx]] started with an include
> of [[Wikipedia:xxx]].
> It may be very useful especially for localize (no-english Wikipedia)
> specification to add explication and links.
> How?
Tim Starling's been working on some experimental code whereby various
additional things can be made like this.
Another possibility is to make [[Special:xxx]] just appear a little more
like a normal page; that is, there would be an "edit this page" link by
which you can edit the header text.
So instead of a separate [[Wikipedia:Recentchanges]] to find and
maintain, you'd just go to [[Special:Recentchanges]] and hit edit in the
usual fashion. A [[Special talk:xxx]] namespace to go with it would be
useful too.
(Technical note: currently Special: is given numeric code -1; if we were
storing such pages in the database this would interfere with some code
that deals with non-talk vs talk pages as being even/odd-numbered.
Reassigning it to the next available positive integer (8?) shouldn't
interfere with anything.)
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
Anthere wrote:
>Well, I think it is bad, very bad, very very bad,
that
>blocked users are nearly unable to contact any one,
>and usually not the banning sysop himself, since most
>people do not give their email in clear.
>Mav answered
>IMO, all Admins should have valid email set-up and
the >block message should
>have a link to "email this Admin" leading to a form
>where the blocked person
>can send a message to the Admin.
I agree
It would also be >important to automatically
>input the block information into the email. I find it
>rather annoying to get
>an email stating "please unblock me, I'm not Micheal"
>without the IP address
>or time of the block.
I also agree
>A special Wikimedia email address could be set up to
>act as the sending email
>address. Or we could just tell the blocked user that
>they need to log-in and
>input a valid email address before sending an email.
I like the first option best because a non loggued in
user could also contact the sysop. Imho, that is also
important
>I have a slight preference for the first option.
-- Daniel Mayer (aka mav)
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Anthere wrote:
>Well, I think it is bad, very bad, very very bad, that
>blocked users are nearly unable to contact any one,
>and usually not the banning sysop himself, since most
>people do not give their email in clear.
IMO, all Admins should have valid email set-up and the block message should
have a link to "email this Admin" leading to a form where the blocked person
can send a message to the Admin. It would also be important to automatically
input the block information into the email. I find it rather annoying to get
an email stating "please unblock me, I'm not Micheal" without the IP address
or time of the block.
A special Wikimedia email address could be set up to act as the sending email
address. Or we could just tell the blocked user that they need to log-in and
input a valid email address before sending an email.
I have a slight preference for the first option.
-- Daniel Mayer (aka mav)
Hi,
Is something odd going on with the page cache for anonymous IPs? I deleted
[[Granulomas]] and I can see it properly gone when logged in, but when logged
out I still get a cached version. I've tried shift-reload, etc. I've also tried
using a different browser. The problem's not at my end. :-)
Evercat
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Sorry, I missed the previous part of the discussion about how user bans will
block the IP on their next edit attempt - still, is there a privacy issue here?
--
Allan Crossman - http://dogma.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
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I've added a more convenient link into the undeletion system, which will
show in bold at the top of the page when viewing a page which has been
deleted (if you're a sysop).
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
Eye candy! So in due time we can leave those ugly CIA maps behind,
great. They remind me of the maps I worked with at primary school.
While we are working to make Brittanica 'for snobs only' (*), we can put
Times Atlas on our 'to outdo' list.
* We might publish Wikipedia 2.0 in a leather-bound edition to get even
those onboard. :)
Erik Zachte
Hello,
I saw the description of your problem about authentication failed through
console access.
Did you solve it?
Thanks for any help.
Arnaldo Gouveia