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Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] CVS
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 11:50:42 -0700
From: Brion Vibber <brion(a)pobox.com>
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Timwi wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I have just checked out the phase3 CVS repository.
>
>Now I've fixed my first bug. How do I get write access so I can commit
>it? Or does somebody want to look over it first?
>
Cool, thanks! Better to look it over first, and make sure it doesn't
break test cases:
* ''em''
* '''strong'''
* '''''em-strong''''' (currently wrong markup)
* ''em '''em-strong'''''
* '''''em-strong''' em'' (currently wrong markup)
* ''em '''em-strong''' em''
* '''strong ''em-strong''''' (currently wrong markup)
* '''''em-strong'' strong'''
* '''strong ''em-string'' strong'''
>What I'm wanting to commit fixes the bug I reported at
>http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=762315
>&group_id=34373&atid=411195. (Sorry I accidentally reported it as a
>feature request, but I couldn't find a way of deleting it, nor would the
>bug tracker let me submit the same thing again as a bug report.)
>
Don't worry about it. I just deleted it as a duplicate of an existing
bug report, anyway. :)
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [Wikipedia-l] CVS
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 13:40:40 +0200
From: Timwi <timwi(a)gmx.net>
Reply-To: wikipedia-l(a)wikipedia.org
To: wikipedia-l(a)wikipedia.org
Hi,
I have just checked out the phase3 CVS repository.
Now I've fixed my first bug. How do I get write access so I can commit
it? Or does somebody want to look over it first?
What I'm wanting to commit fixes the bug I reported at
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=762315
&group_id=34373&atid=411195. (Sorry I accidentally reported it as a
feature request, but I couldn't find a way of deleting it, nor would the
bug tracker let me submit the same thing again as a bug report.)
Greetings,
Timwi
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I wrote in small part:
>So now I've implemented my suggestions in the attached files.
These were munged a bit in a bad FTP between Windows and Unix.
Try the attached files now.
-- Toby
Here's my rough version of a new layout.
It's not too radical a departure from what we have, but I think it is
much clearer, particularly for newcomers.
Is it possible someone could upload those two test page files somewhere
on the server so people can easily see the test page & comment?
I would sugest that the current default skin be kept as an option, but
that this become the new default skin.
In response to desires expressed on:
http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style_(dates_and_numb
ers)
I've written some PHP code to convert date formats from those typed to a
user preference. A demonstration is now available at:
http://www.piclab.com/wiki/wiki.phtml?title=Date_demonstration
There's also some information at:
http://meta.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_dates
Any comments would be appreciated. There's just a few minor things left to
do: for example I want to have an option in LocalSettings.php to disable it.
I'm busy this weekend, expect an upload to CVS some time next week. I'll
also upload that minor enhancement to RC I wrote some time ago.
Can I please have whatever access is necessary to enable me to install this
on test.wikipedia.org, and ultimately on the live server?
-- Tim Starling.
Anthere wrote:
>Ok, this is an stupid issue, but I find quite curious
>that this topic was initially raised by the french
>wiki, that so many french people expressed their
>dislike of this method, that final conclusion was to
>drop the count system, that we indicated in our talk
>pages that the count system was changed
>
>just to find oneself totally ridiculous many months
>later discovering that *nothing* has changed and that
>the old system is still the one working.
>
Basically here's what happened:
* I saw the silliness, decided to make a change, and announced my plan.
* Some people decided we had to hold a vote first.
* All momentum was destroyed.
* The vote, eventually, turned out pretty much as I had planned to do
anyway.
* The latest working code did end up with the new count system, but was
not at that time installed, having other experimental code.
* Everything was supposed to move to the new server, with the latest code.
* The English wiki got moved to the new server to load test, etc.
* Lee announced we were going to move & upgrade the rest, then vanished
for a few weeks.
* I haven't had time to do it either.
At some point I do want to get everything upgraded at least, but haven't
had a chance to double-check that the CVS version is not currently
broken with experimental code.
(Incidentally, I've been having trouble with my settings for wikitech-l;
I thought I had gotten everything right, but it's still not sending me
mail except for digests. Off to configure again... So, if I haven't
responded to something dreadfully important, please remind me. I may not
have seen it.)
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
Now, THAT'S interesting!
So, for example, I'd do this:
[[Martin_Luther#Bib|Bibliography] in the TOC
and
<div id="bib"> ==Bibliography==</div>
and it's work?
Rev. Robert E. Smith
Electronic Resources Librarian
Concordia Theological Seminary
Fort Wayne, Indiana
"Translatio traditio est."
-- attr. St. Jerome
-----Original Message-----
From: Luc Van Oostenryck [mailto:luc.vanoostenryck@easynet.be]
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 12:40 PM
To: wikitech-l(a)wikipedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Links within article
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 01:53:42AM +0900, Guillaume Blanchard wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 05:45:00PM +0200, Erik Moeller wrote:
> > > Robert-
> > > > Is it possible to use HTML <a name=""> and <a href="#"> type
> > > > tags or something similar in a Wikipedia article?
> > >
> > > It has been discussed, but I think the majority does not want it,
> because
> > > it complicates linking unnecessarily. It would be difficult to keep
> track
> > > of links to non-existent sections and to fix them, and this might
happen
> a
> > > lot given how often articles are rewritten.
> > >
> > > What I, and I think most people, would find useful is an option to
have
> an
> > > automatic table of contents for every article with more than x
headlines
> > > (I would say x=3), which would use the headlines as position points
for
> <a
> > > name=".."> tags. But you could not directly link to one of the
sections
> > > from another article.
> > >
> > > Actually, you can see a similar feature in action on Sun's Javapedia:
> > >
> http://wiki.java.net/bin/view/Javapedia/AlwaysUseStringBufferMisconception
> > > (Die, CamelCase!)
> >
> > Which majority doesn't want it ? Just try using Wiktionary for a moment
> > and you'll see why having option of linking (cross-article) to such
> headings
> > is something that we have to implement.
>
> I'm also FOR and I ask desperately this feature in Wikipedia for a while !
> [[Foo#Bar|Text]] may be VERY nice to me.
> With for exemple ##Bar to create targets.
>
> Aoineko
It work already. Look on fr: at [[Liste des articles d'astronomie]].
What is missing is how to set the anchor (a fake <div id=anchor> work but is
painfull).
--
Luc Van Oostenryck aka Looxix
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Dear Friends:
Is it possible to use HTML <a name=""> and <a href="#"> type
tags or something similar in a Wikipedia article? What I'm
thinking is that, if an article gets longish, we could construct
a table of contents at the top, for the reader's convenience.
Bob "the newbie" of the Fort
Rev. Robert E. Smith
Project Wittenberg Coordinator
and
Electronic Resources Librarian
Concordia Theological Seminary
Fort Wayne, Indiana
"Translatio traditio est."
-- attr. St. Jerome
It would be fairly convenient to be able to search the history of an
article for the first occurance of a specific phrase. So if I want to know
who inserted claim X into the article, I would just enter "XYZ" in the
search box, and the next screen would show me either "no results" or the
diff of the edit that added XYZ to the article, as well as the user name.
I don't think performance would be much of an issue, since article
histories are very much limited in size. Site-wide search is so slow
because our database is so huge. Histories could be searched by starting
with the oldest revision, loading each one into memory and grabbing for a
specific string -- don't know if this would be faster than an optimized
SQL query. In any case, not much more than 10 revisions or so would have
to be typically searched, with an average article size of 1000 bytes or
so, and the feature would be fairly obscurely placed on the history page
only. So I don't think it would add much load, but save us a lot of time
otherwise spent comparing revision pairs.
Regards,
Erik
Hi, folks!
I'd like to put a new optional feature into Phase-III and wanted to ask
whether that's OK or not.
When users search, they search by default only in the article namespace
(rather, in no namespace at all). In new Wikis smaller communities it
could be very useful to let users search for other namespaces by default
as well. E.g. many new users will want to search for documentation. I'm
working for a youth organization and we have many non-computer literate
members. To let them search for on-site documentation, they have to
search, fail, click on the correct namespace and search again. My
feature would enable the admin to define a site-wide default set of
namespaces to search for that defaults to the currently used set.
Any criticism, hints, additions, objections?
Bye!
Matthias