New read-only mailing list which sends out notifications of commits to
the CVS repository:
http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-cvs
It's debatable whether it would be better to send these straight to
wikitech-l. That might be annoying.
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
Well, we've had the search engine on for about a day, and so far things
seem good. Load on the database server is still fairly light; it's got
a lot of idle time and I've never seen the load average peak over 1.0.
I've just made some fixes to the search so it should try to match all
given search terms by default, which is what most people expect (google
has trained them well!) and it should do a better job of highlighting
search terms in the results than it was doing. It's still not perfect
though... I'd particularly appreciate feedback from people using
non-Latin scripts (Chinese, Japanese, Hebrew, Arabic, Cyrillic, and the
Indic scripts) as to how well it can find things.
Note that the "go" button is usually the default if you hit enter in
the search field and "go" is very idiosyncratic, often sending people
to insanely unrelated pages. That also needs to be fixed up.
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
How about we give each of the non-converted Wikipedia a MediaWiki like
this:
it2.wikipedia.org -> MediaWiki
it.wikipedia.org -> UseMod
ca2.wikipedia.org ->MediaWiki
ca.wikipedia.org -> UseMod
etc.
Then each of these projects can do the transition manually and as soon as
they're finished they give us a holler and we move xy2 to xy and take down
the UseMod install. An automated transition is problematic anyhow because
of the lack of namespaces, different image handling etc. Any reasonably
large wiki should have enough users to reduce the workload to max. 100
pages per user.
What do you think?
Regards,
Erik
Shah,
What a great idea! I'm forwarding your request to wikitech-l, as the people
there will be much more help to you than I can be.
----- Forwarded message from Shah Asaduzzaman <asad(a)cs.mcgill.ca> -----
From: "Shah Asaduzzaman" <asad(a)cs.mcgill.ca>
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 00:28:26 -0500
To: <jwales(a)bomis.com>
Subject: About starting a new wikipedia in language : Bengali
Hi Jimbo,
I am a regular user of the wikipedia, and for along time I was planning
for starting Bengali pages for wikipedia.
Now a days, several open source fonts and authoring tools are available
for Bengali, and it would be easier to start this.
But I could not start it following the instructions given in the "start
a new edition" page....
Is there anything special that I need...? First of all I could find
'edit this page' for the main page.
Plz inform...or let me know where can I find the info..
sincerely
Shah Asaduzzaman
PhD student, Computer Science
McGill University Canada
Native of Bangladesh, First language: Bengali
----- End forwarded message -----
Brion wrote:
>So why are we talking about this? Google isn't going to
>vanish from the web because we get the internal search
>back online.
Yeah but the link to the Google search form may disappear from Wikipedia once
the in-house search is re-enabled. I find the Wikipedia Google search to be
rather powerful for serious data mining where up to the minute article data
is not needed. So I guess I'm advocating for a "Search {ProjectName} from
Google" radio button right under the MediaWiki search form. The default of
the toggle would be to use MediaWiki's own search functionality so long as
the database server isn't bogged down.
Giving people the option of live database search and Googlesearch should
reduce database server load as well (I always felt guilty using the Wikipedia
search before but was still too lazy to visit my user page to click on my own
link to the Wikipedia search form on Google. ).
-- Daniel Mayer (aka mav)
Is there a good reason this:
---8<---
#Item 1
#Item 2
#Item 3
---8<---
...should render to this:
---8<---
<p><ol><li>Item 1</li></ol></p>
<p><ol><li>Item 2</li></ol></p>
<p><ol><li>Item 3</li></ol></p>
---8<---
...instead of this:
---8<---
<ol>
<li>Item 1</li>
<li>Item 2</li>
<li>Item 3</li>
</ol>
---8<---
? If I file an RFE to do this, am I dumb?
~ESP
--
Evan Prodromou <evan(a)wikitravel.org>
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Brion wrote:
>After a couple weeks of breaking it in on Wikipedia,
>the MediaWiki 1.1.0 release is now available. Various
>bug fixes, wiki-friendly table markup, and localization
>improvements top user-visible changes over the
>previous stable snapshots.
A one series indicates that the code is in enough shape for general
consumption. Is this so? I thought we had a lot more documentation to do and
the installation/configuration needed to to be streamlined.
IMO it would have been better to wait for that and then release our first 1.0
with a press release. That would have generated a good deal of interest in
the code.
Oh well.
-- Daniel Mayer (aka mav)
Hello,
the SQL dumps on http://www.download.wikipedia.org seem quite old. Maybe
the cron job gost lost while switching servers?
I remember there were problems with the "old" english db, that was over
2GB and apache was refusing to server it. We could host it from geoffrin,
since apache 64bit shold not complain.
Ciao,
Alfio
After a couple weeks of breaking it in on Wikipedia, the MediaWiki
1.1.0 release is now available. Various bug fixes, wiki-friendly table
markup, and localization improvements top user-visible changes over the
previous stable snapshots.
Release notes:
http://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?release_id=202383
Download:
http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/wikipedia/mediawiki-1.1.0.tar.gz?
download
The previous stable branch snapshots may be thought of as 1.0.x. Or,
you know, not. Main development will continue in the trunk; the 1.1
branch is now for bug fixes only.
In CVS, the new release is in the REL1_1 branch, tag REL1_1_0.
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)