Wikitech-l December 2003

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CVS notification mailing list
by Brion Vibber 10 Dec '03

10 Dec '03

New read-only mailing list which sends out notifications of commits to the CVS repository: http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-cvs It's debatable whether it would be better to send these straight to wikitech-l. That might be annoying. -- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

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Search engine
by Brion Vibber 09 Dec '03

09 Dec '03

Well, we've had the search engine on for about a day, and so far things seem good. Load on the database server is still fairly light; it's got a lot of idle time and I've never seen the load average peak over 1.0. I've just made some fixes to the search so it should try to match all given search terms by default, which is what most people expect (google has trained them well!) and it should do a better job of highlighting search terms in the results than it was doing. It's still not perfect though... I'd particularly appreciate feedback from people using non-Latin scripts (Chinese, Japanese, Hebrew, Arabic, Cyrillic, and the Indic scripts) as to how well it can find things. Note that the "go" button is usually the default if you hit enter in the search field and "go" is very idiosyncratic, often sending people to insanely unrelated pages. That also needs to be fixed up. -- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

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TomeRaider files
by Erik Zachte 09 Dec '03

09 Dec '03

TomeRaider files used to be at http://download.wikimedia.org/tomeraider/current/ Have they been moved? Erik Zachte

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Conversion without a script
by erik_moeller＠gmx.de 09 Dec '03

09 Dec '03

How about we give each of the non-converted Wikipedia a MediaWiki like this: it2.wikipedia.org -> MediaWiki it.wikipedia.org -> UseMod ca2.wikipedia.org ->MediaWiki ca.wikipedia.org -> UseMod etc. Then each of these projects can do the transition manually and as soon as they're finished they give us a holler and we move xy2 to xy and take down the UseMod install. An automated transition is problematic anyhow because of the lack of namespaces, different image handling etc. Any reasonably large wiki should have enough users to reduce the workload to max. 100 pages per user. What do you think? Regards, Erik

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[asad@cs.mcgill.ca: About starting a new wikipedia in language : Bengali]
by Jimmy Wales 09 Dec '03

09 Dec '03

Shah, What a great idea! I'm forwarding your request to wikitech-l, as the people there will be much more help to you than I can be. ----- Forwarded message from Shah Asaduzzaman <asad(a)cs.mcgill.ca> ----- From: "Shah Asaduzzaman" <asad(a)cs.mcgill.ca> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 00:28:26 -0500 To: <jwales(a)bomis.com> Subject: About starting a new wikipedia in language : Bengali Hi Jimbo, I am a regular user of the wikipedia, and for along time I was planning for starting Bengali pages for wikipedia. Now a days, several open source fonts and authoring tools are available for Bengali, and it would be easier to start this. But I could not start it following the instructions given in the "start a new edition" page.... Is there anything special that I need...? First of all I could find 'edit this page' for the main page. Plz inform...or let me know where can I find the info.. sincerely Shah Asaduzzaman PhD student, Computer Science McGill University Canada Native of Bangladesh, First language: Bengali ----- End forwarded message -----

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Search engine.
by Daniel Mayer 09 Dec '03

09 Dec '03

Brion wrote: >So why are we talking about this? Google isn't going to >vanish from the web because we get the internal search >back online. Yeah but the link to the Google search form may disappear from Wikipedia once the in-house search is re-enabled. I find the Wikipedia Google search to be rather powerful for serious data mining where up to the minute article data is not needed. So I guess I'm advocating for a "Search {ProjectName} from Google" radio button right under the MediaWiki search form. The default of the toggle would be to use MediaWiki's own search functionality so long as the database server isn't bogged down. Giving people the option of live database search and Googlesearch should reduce database server load as well (I always felt guilty using the Wikipedia search before but was still too lazy to visit my user page to click on my own link to the Wikipedia search form on Google. ). -- Daniel Mayer (aka mav)

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List Items
by Evan Prodromou 08 Dec '03

08 Dec '03

Is there a good reason this: ---8<--- #Item 1 #Item 2 #Item 3 ---8<--- ...should render to this: ---8<--- <ol><li>Item 1</li></ol> <ol><li>Item 2</li></ol> <ol><li>Item 3</li></ol> ---8<--- ...instead of this: ---8<--- <ol> <li>Item 1</li> <li>Item 2</li> <li>Item 3</li> </ol> ---8<--- ? If I file an RFE to do this, am I dumb? ~ESP -- Evan Prodromou <evan(a)wikitravel.org> Wikitravel - http://www.wikitravel.org/ The free, complete, up-to-date and reliable world-wide travel guide

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MediaWiki 1.1.0 release
by Daniel Mayer 08 Dec '03

08 Dec '03

Brion wrote: >After a couple weeks of breaking it in on Wikipedia, >the MediaWiki 1.1.0 release is now available. Various >bug fixes, wiki-friendly table markup, and localization >improvements top user-visible changes over the >previous stable snapshots. A one series indicates that the code is in enough shape for general consumption. Is this so? I thought we had a lot more documentation to do and the installation/configuration needed to to be streamlined. IMO it would have been better to wait for that and then release our first 1.0 with a press release. That would have generated a good deal of interest in the code. Oh well. -- Daniel Mayer (aka mav)

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SQL dump?
by Alfio Puglisi 08 Dec '03

08 Dec '03

Hello, the SQL dumps on http://www.download.wikipedia.org seem quite old. Maybe the cron job gost lost while switching servers? I remember there were problems with the "old" english db, that was over 2GB and apache was refusing to server it. We could host it from geoffrin, since apache 64bit shold not complain. Ciao, Alfio

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MediaWiki 1.1.0 release
by Brion Vibber 08 Dec '03

08 Dec '03

After a couple weeks of breaking it in on Wikipedia, the MediaWiki 1.1.0 release is now available. Various bug fixes, wiki-friendly table markup, and localization improvements top user-visible changes over the previous stable snapshots. Release notes: http://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?release_id=202383 Download: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/wikipedia/mediawiki-1.1.0.tar.gz? download The previous stable branch snapshots may be thought of as 1.0.x. Or, you know, not. Main development will continue in the trunk; the 1.1 branch is now for bug fixes only. In CVS, the new release is in the REL1_1 branch, tag REL1_1_0. -- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

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