There's no interface for it, but if you think those should
be restored, I'll restore them.
>How do you undelete pages?
>Andre Engels deleted
>September 11, 2001 Terrorist Attack/New York Times stories
>September 11, 2001 Terrorist Attack/New York Times articles, October
>Even if there are problems with those pages, e.g. the links not
>pages are useful if only for the headlines.
> Something's wrong with the web server.
I did some software updates and moved some directories in
preparation for upgrading the German Wikipedia. The site
shouldn't have been down for more than a minute, and it looks
like it's running smoothly now. If that's not the case, let
> What are the requirements to be able to get de.wikipedia to the
> latest version of the software. What could Kurt help with?
Do you want to put it on the new server or the old one? Magnus
has done an intitial translation for the new software, and Brion's
conversion scripts are complete, so I'd just need to get my hands
on the existing database, do the initial installation, and then
hopefully hand over maintenance to Magnus.
Hello dear people who have the right to access the server!
Some people (including me) are really getting annoyed about the delay of
the software change of the German wikipedia. Almost every day I (or
someone else) has to explain, that this and that feature is coming soon
with the new software - since several months. I know that nobody gets
paid for this work, and I appreciate every line of code written, etc.
But please don't make people believe that the software change is coming
soon, if in reality it will take about half a year.
Some things are put on hold in the German Wikipedia - like a press
release - until the software change. But it's getting quite frustraing
I don't want to accuse anyone, but just say: Don't promise things you
can't keep. If your focus is on the Englisch Wikipedia that's okay with
me, but just tell us so that we can deal with it.
> I have had a log-on problem for the past two days. When I get
> to the main page, I automatically log on (and my user ID appears
> on the upper right corner). But when I try to do anything, it
> automatically logs me off.
You're probably logging on initially to wikipedia.com; a few days
ago we changed all the internal links to wikipedia.org, so when
you follow a link your cookie goes away. The solution is to change
your initial log in to wikipedia.org.
Steven, I am forwarding this to wikitech-l. I haven't been logged in for two days,
so I'm not sure if there's any buzz about this.
----- Forwarded message from "steven l. rubenstein" <rubenste(a)ohiou.edu> -----
From: "steven l. rubenstein" <rubenste(a)ohiou.edu>
Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 14:59:08 -0400
To: Jimmy Wales <jwales(a)bomis.com>
Subject: Re: help?
I have had a log-on problem for the past two days. When I get to the main
page, I automatically log on (and my user ID appears on the upper right
corner). But when I try to do anything, it automatically logs me
off. What I mean is, when I try to go to any other page, my user-id
disappears and a number appears on the upper right corner. What can I
do? Are other people experiencing this?
----- End forwarded message -----
> Perhaps its time to think about rolling our own fulltext
> indexing mechanism?
Short of that, there are still a few tricks we can do. First,
it was earier than I thought it would be to add MySQL's stoplist
to the code, so that's done now. Conversely, if you or others
want to customize the list itself, you can edit the file
"FulltextStoplist.php" in the code, and I can recompile MySQL
to use our cutomized one.
Secondly, MySQL 4.0 has a much fancier fulltext search feature,
so we may want to switch over at some point when 4.0 is "blessed".
It's already a pretty stable product from what I hear, it's just
not "officially" stable.
>Perhaps its time to think about rolling our own fulltext indexing
Just the opposite! Let's just use mysql's fulltext search the way it
was intended. It is precisely designed for an application like ours,
and they say they optimized the parameters for large databases.
I'm sure we could not hack together anything comparable. (See also my
last post on wikipedia-l.)
On Fri, Aug 16, 2002 at 10:53:17PM +0200, Axel Boldt wrote:
> Andre writes:
> >Could the search feature be changed such that common words, rather
> >than blocking the whole search, are removed from it
> I would like that very much. I just searched for "leap second" and
> found nothing, because "second" is a stop word...
> The internal mysql search engine already does the right thing and
> omits stop words silently, but we are using it separately for every
> word, which causes the problem.
The problem with that was that MySQL's scoring was based more on OR'ing the
search words. So a search for "world war" would give you a result that is
similar to what you now get if you do "world OR war".
It surprises me a bit that "second" is a stopword, btw. That reminds me. As
far as I could tell there is only an English stopword list in MySQL. So
what do we do for the non-English Wikipedias? If we want to give them each
their own stopword list then we need to recompile MySQL for each of them and
given the all their own MySQL server. Or are we going to have one server
with an empty stopword list and see that doesn't let the fulltext index
explode in size?
Another thing is that if a word appears in more than 50% of the documents
then its search result will also be empty. We cannot filter those out in the
search text because we don't know which words these are.
Perhaps its time to think about rolling our own fulltext indexing
-- Jan Hidders