Hi!
The ProofreadPage lack of documentation is a real problem since the creation of the extension. For example, I discovered in 2012 that some en.wikisource administrators didn't know the very useful header=1 parameter of the <pages> tag.
Currently the installation and configuration documentation is stored on the extension page on MediaWiki.org [1]. But, about the user documentation (parameters of <pages> tag…) there is no authoritative source, only some partial pages on oldWikisource and on help pages of language based wikis.
I really believe that this big issue should be fix. I think the best way to do it is to create a central documentation page for end users in the Help namespace of MediaWiki.org, that would document all the features of the ProofreadPage extension and be updated when things change in the extensions. It would be written in English and then translated in the same place using the Translate extension, so all Wikisources should be able to replace their own partial documentation with this centralized version.
But, because of my lack of free time, I don’t feel able to archive this goal alone. Is there someone ready to start the work by collecting data disseminated on oldWikisource and one some language based Wikisource and start this page [3]? I’m ready to help for the not documented yet parts. It doesn’t requires technical skills, only a knowledge on how to use ProofreadPage. So I think that any experienced Wikisource contributor is able to do it.
Many thanks to the person that will do it, who will have the eternal gratitude of the Wikisource community.
Thomas
[1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Proofread_Page [2] https://wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:ProofreadPage [3] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:ProofreadPage
I've started it on [1].
It's unfortunate that due to licensing issues (ns:Help is CC0 on mediawiki.org wiki) we can't transwiki some existing pages from Wikisources. So, specially because it, a lot of help is needed.
While writing those initial pages I just realized that there is no guide to help new subdomain wikis (or some already created) to learn our very specific topics (copyright and public domain issues, how to research for digitizations, scans quality issues etc), only the specific help pages on each subdomain.
In my view this will be helpful not only for those new or small Wikisources, but also for subdomain coordination. The [2] is messy and almost unmanageable...
Is anyone interested to work on it?
[1] - https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:ProofreadPage [2] - https://wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:Subdomain_coordination
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 10:43 AM, Thomas Tanon thomaspt@hotmail.fr wrote:
Hi!
The ProofreadPage lack of documentation is a real problem since the creation of the extension. For example, I discovered in 2012 that some en.wikisource administrators didn't know the very useful header=1 parameter of the <pages> tag.
Currently the installation and configuration documentation is stored on the extension page on MediaWiki.org [1]. But, about the user documentation (parameters of <pages> tag...) there is no authoritative source, only some partial pages on oldWikisource and on help pages of language based wikis.
I really believe that this big issue should be fix. I think the best way to do it is to create a central documentation page for end users in the Help namespace of MediaWiki.org, that would document all the features of the ProofreadPage extension and be updated when things change in the extensions. It would be written in English and then translated in the same place using the Translate extension, so all Wikisources should be able to replace their own partial documentation with this centralized version.
But, because of my lack of free time, I don't feel able to archive this goal alone. Is there someone ready to start the work by collecting data disseminated on oldWikisource and one some language based Wikisource and start this page [3]? I'm ready to help for the not documented yet parts. It doesn't requires technical skills, only a knowledge on how to use ProofreadPage. So I think that any experienced Wikisource contributor is able to do it.
Many thanks to the person that will do it, who will have the eternal gratitude of the Wikisource community.
Thomas
[1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Proofread_Page [2] https://wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:ProofreadPage [3] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:ProofreadPage _______________________________________________ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
I've had a bit of a crack at adding some notes to the new help pages. :-) See what you think.
On 02/21/2014 12:29 PM, Luiz Augusto wrote:
I've started it on [1].
It's unfortunate that due to licensing issues (ns:Help is CC0 on mediawiki.org http://mediawiki.org wiki) we can't transwiki some existing pages from Wikisources. So, specially because it, a lot of help is needed.
While writing those initial pages I just realized that there is no guide to help new subdomain wikis (or some already created) to learn our very specific topics (copyright and public domain issues, how to research for digitizations, scans quality issues etc), only the specific help pages on each subdomain.
In my view this will be helpful not only for those new or small Wikisources, but also for subdomain coordination. The [2] is messy and almost unmanageable...
Is anyone interested to work on it?
[1] - https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:ProofreadPage [2] - https://wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:Subdomain_coordination
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 10:43 AM, Thomas Tanon <thomaspt@hotmail.fr mailto:thomaspt@hotmail.fr> wrote:
Hi! The ProofreadPage lack of documentation is a real problem since the creation of the extension. For example, I discovered in 2012 that some en.wikisource administrators didn't know the very useful header=1 parameter of the <pages> tag. Currently the installation and configuration documentation is stored on the extension page on MediaWiki.org [1]. But, about the user documentation (parameters of <pages> tag…) there is no authoritative source, only some partial pages on oldWikisource and on help pages of language based wikis. I really believe that this big issue should be fix. I think the best way to do it is to create a central documentation page for end users in the Help namespace of MediaWiki.org, that would document all the features of the ProofreadPage extension and be updated when things change in the extensions. It would be written in English and then translated in the same place using the Translate extension, so all Wikisources should be able to replace their own partial documentation with this centralized version. But, because of my lack of free time, I don’t feel able to archive this goal alone. Is there someone ready to start the work by collecting data disseminated on oldWikisource and one some language based Wikisource and start this page [3]? I’m ready to help for the not documented yet parts. It doesn’t requires technical skills, only a knowledge on how to use ProofreadPage. So I think that any experienced Wikisource contributor is able to do it. Many thanks to the person that will do it, who will have the eternal gratitude of the Wikisource community. Thomas [1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Proofread_Page [2] https://wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:ProofreadPage [3] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:ProofreadPage _______________________________________________ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
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Hi!
Thanks a lot for this beginning!
A detail: as explained in [1] the installation/configuration instructions should remains in the Extension: page. So I think that "Setup and software requirements" and "Custom namespaces setup" sections should be moved to the extension page. I have already merged the first one and the second one contains obsolete informations (the namespaces configuration should be done using $wgProofreadPageNamespaceIds as explained in [2]).
Thanks again,
Thomas
[1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:PD_help [2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Proofread_Page#Namespaces
Le 22 févr. 2014 à 04:51, Sam Wilson sam@samwilson.id.au a écrit :
I've had a bit of a crack at adding some notes to the new help pages. :-) See what you think.
On 02/21/2014 12:29 PM, Luiz Augusto wrote:
I've started it on [1].
It's unfortunate that due to licensing issues (ns:Help is CC0 on mediawiki.orghttp://mediawiki.org wiki) we can't transwiki some existing pages from Wikisources. So, specially because it, a lot of help is needed.
While writing those initial pages I just realized that there is no guide to help new subdomain wikis (or some already created) to learn our very specific topics (copyright and public domain issues, how to research for digitizations, scans quality issues etc), only the specific help pages on each subdomain.
In my view this will be helpful not only for those new or small Wikisources, but also for subdomain coordination. The [2] is messy and almost unmanageable...
Is anyone interested to work on it?
[1] - https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:ProofreadPage [2] - https://wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:Subdomain_coordination
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 10:43 AM, Thomas Tanon <thomaspt@hotmail.frmailto:thomaspt@hotmail.fr> wrote:
Hi!
The ProofreadPage lack of documentation is a real problem since the creation of the extension. For example, I discovered in 2012 that some en.wikisource administrators didn't know the very useful header=1 parameter of the <pages> tag.
Currently the installation and configuration documentation is stored on the extension page on MediaWiki.org [1]. But, about the user documentation (parameters of <pages> tag…) there is no authoritative source, only some partial pages on oldWikisource and on help pages of language based wikis.
I really believe that this big issue should be fix. I think the best way to do it is to create a central documentation page for end users in the Help namespace of MediaWiki.org, that would document all the features of the ProofreadPage extension and be updated when things change in the extensions. It would be written in English and then translated in the same place using the Translate extension, so all Wikisources should be able to replace their own partial documentation with this centralized version.
But, because of my lack of free time, I don’t feel able to archive this goal alone. Is there someone ready to start the work by collecting data disseminated on oldWikisource and one some language based Wikisource and start this page [3]? I’m ready to help for the not documented yet parts. It doesn’t requires technical skills, only a knowledge on how to use ProofreadPage. So I think that any experienced Wikisource contributor is able to do it.
Many thanks to the person that will do it, who will have the eternal gratitude of the Wikisource community.
Thomas
[1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Proofread_Page [2] https://wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:ProofreadPage [3] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:ProofreadPage _______________________________________________ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org mailto:Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
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