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Amir Ladsgroup

24 Jun 2014 24 Jun '14

3:37 p.m.

Hello, I have access to huge resources of old books in Persian (some of them are even typed) and almost all of them can be imported to Wikisource but the problem is I don't have (or know) any OCR for Persian, Do you know which OCR software supports Persian (supporting Arabic is not enough; I checked several programs) texts? Best -- Amir

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Federico Leva (Nemo)

24 Jun 24 Jun

4:13 p.m.

Amir Ladsgroup, 24/06/2014 15:37:

I have access to huge resources of old books in Persian (some of them are even typed) and almost all of them can be imported to Wikisource but the problem is I don't have (or know) any OCR for Persian, Do you know which OCR software supports Persian (supporting Arabic is not enough; I checked several programs) texts?

The only result for "Persian" and OCR in abbyy website is <http://www.abbyy.com/CaseStudies/SISU-Reveals-Its-Multilingual-Content-to-Academic-Community-Thanks-to-ABBYY-Recognition-Server/>, weird! Worth asking them some details, they might have some additional plugins. On the FLOSS side, maybe some library in Iran made some investments on tesseract? If there's any big digital library of Persian content you should ask them as well. Reminder: archive.org is still in need of people willing to compare 8.0 vs. 9.0 OCR results of some books in their language. :) http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.wikisource/1552 Nemo

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Aleksey Chalabyan

4:38 p.m.

ABBYY FineReader supports Hebrew and Arabic since v. 11. But I'm afraid same script is not enough. For example FineReader has 3 versions for Armenian. All three use same scripts, different orphography and slightly different vocabulary, but if you set wrong language drop in quality is dramatic. So I'm not sure if Arabic OCR would work good for text in Farsi (Persian). FineReader provides 30 days full trial, and I think it's worth to give it a try. You may try to approach ABBYY and check if there are any plans on full support of Persian in coming future. And trying to train Teseract seems like good idea to get free/open source OCR for Persian, if you can get enough resources on that. But I can't comment on how well it will work with RTL scripts especially with Nastaliq/Naskh when letters and words are not separated from each other. On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 6:13 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) <nemowiki(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Amir Ladsgroup, 24/06/2014 15:37: I have access to huge resources of old books in Persian (some of them

are even typed) and almost all of them can be imported to Wikisource but the problem is I don't have (or know) any OCR for Persian, Do you know which OCR software supports Persian (supporting Arabic is not enough; I checked several programs) texts?

The only result for "Persian" and OCR in abbyy website is < http://www.abbyy.com/CaseStudies/SISU-Reveals-Its-Multilingual-Content-to- Academic-Community-Thanks-to-ABBYY-Recognition-Server/>, weird! Worth asking them some details, they might have some additional plugins. On the FLOSS side, maybe some library in Iran made some investments on tesseract? If there's any big digital library of Persian content you should ask them as well. Reminder: archive.org is still in need of people willing to compare 8.0 vs. 9.0 OCR results of some books in their language. :) http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.wikisource/1552 Nemo _______________________________________________ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l

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Amir Ladsgroup

25 Jun 25 Jun

10:06 a.m.

I tried ABBY before and the quality was low, I will try tesseract and see what happens Best On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 7:08 PM, Aleksey Chalabyan <xelgen.am(a)gmail.com> wrote:

ABBYY FineReader supports Hebrew and Arabic since v. 11. But I'm afraid same script is not enough. For example FineReader has 3 versions for Armenian. All three use same scripts, different orphography and slightly different vocabulary, but if you set wrong language drop in quality is dramatic. So I'm not sure if Arabic OCR would work good for text in Farsi (Persian). FineReader provides 30 days full trial, and I think it's worth to give it a try. You may try to approach ABBYY and check if there are any plans on full support of Persian in coming future. And trying to train Teseract seems like good idea to get free/open source OCR for Persian, if you can get enough resources on that. But I can't comment on how well it will work with RTL scripts especially with Nastaliq/Naskh when letters and words are not separated from each other. On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 6:13 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) <nemowiki(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Amir Ladsgroup, 24/06/2014 15:37: I have access to huge resources of old books in Persian (some of them

are even typed) and almost all of them can be imported to Wikisource but the problem is I don't have (or know) any OCR for Persian, Do you know which OCR software supports Persian (supporting Arabic is not enough; I checked several programs) texts?

The only result for "Persian" and OCR in abbyy website is < http://www.abbyy.com/CaseStudies/SISU-Reveals-Its- Multilingual-Content-to-Academic-Community-Thanks-to- ABBYY-Recognition-Server/>, weird! Worth asking them some details, they might have some additional plugins. On the FLOSS side, maybe some library in Iran made some investments on tesseract? If there's any big digital library of Persian content you should ask them as well. Reminder: archive.org is still in need of people willing to compare 8.0 vs. 9.0 OCR results of some books in their language. :) http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.wikisource/1552 Nemo _______________________________________________ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l

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Yann Forget

27 Jun 27 Jun

9:14 a.m.

Hi, I have Abby FR 11 Professional Edition, and Persian/Farsi is not among the supported languages. :( Yann 2014-06-24 19:07 GMT+05:30 Amir Ladsgroup <ladsgroup(a)gmail.com>om>:

Hello, I have access to huge resources of old books in Persian (some of them are even typed) and almost all of them can be imported to Wikisource but the problem is I don't have (or know) any OCR for Persian, Do you know which OCR software supports Persian (supporting Arabic is not enough; I checked several programs) texts? Best -- Amir

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Alex Brollo

5:22 p.m.

Is there any Persian/Parsi text into Internet Archive? I'd like to take a look to its OCR - just to see if OCR engine attempts to interpret it (even if with no usable result). Alex 2014-06-27 9:14 GMT+02:00 Yann Forget <yannfo(a)gmail.com>om>:

Hi, I have Abby FR 11 Professional Edition, and Persian/Farsi is not among the supported languages. :( Yann 2014-06-24 19:07 GMT+05:30 Amir Ladsgroup <ladsgroup(a)gmail.com>om>:

Hello, I have access to huge resources of old books in Persian (some of them are even typed) and almost all of them can be imported to Wikisource but the problem is I don't have (or know) any OCR for Persian, Do you know which

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software supports Persian (supporting Arabic is not enough; I checked several programs) texts? Best -- Amir

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Federico Leva (Nemo)

6:38 p.m.

Alex Brollo, 27/06/2014 17:22:

just to see if OCR engine attempts to interpret it (even if with no usable result)

Yes there are – search language:Persian (some false positives) – and no it doesn't try. Nemo

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