Hi,
is there any Wikidata property for characters depicted in non-fiction literatures? I found Properties like characters (P674) for fictions, depicts (P180) for works like paintings, main subject (P921) for primary topic of a work, but couldn't find something for non-fictions. Am I missing something?
Aren't they just called people? What are you looking to achieve? depicts(P180) https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P180statement is subject of(P805) https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P805 subject has role(P2868) https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P2868 owner of(P1830) https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1830 dedicated to(P825) https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P825 identity of subject in context(P4649) https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P4649 patron(P1962) https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1962 I predominantly use P805 where it is a chapter, or biographical entry about a person, so if you can give more context
-- Billinghurst
------ Original Message ------ From: "Bodhisattwa Mandal" bodhisattwa.rgkmc@gmail.com To: "discussion list for Wikisource, the free library" wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: 7/04/2018 12:03:09 AM Subject: [Wikisource-l] Wikidata property for non-fiction characters
Hi,
is there any Wikidata property for characters depicted in non-fiction literatures? I found Properties like characters (P674) for fictions, depicts (P180) for works like paintings, main subject (P921) for primary topic of a work, but couldn't find something for non-fictions. Am I missing something?
-- Bodhisattwa
Hi,
If I understand correctly, Bodhisattwa, you want the same thing as P674 but for people and non-fiction (instead of character and fiction). AFAIK, that doesn't exist yet but you should ask for it (on https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal ).
Cdlt, ~nicolas
2018-04-06 17:54 GMT+02:00 billinghurst billinghurstwiki@gmail.com:
Aren't they just called people? What are you looking to achieve?
- depicts (P180) https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P180
- statement is subject of (P805)
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P805
- subject has role (P2868)
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P2868
- owner of (P1830) https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1830
- dedicated to (P825) https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P825
- identity of subject in context (P4649)
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P4649
- patron (P1962) https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1962
I predominantly use P805 where it is a chapter, or biographical entry about a person, so if you can give more context
-- Billinghurst
------ Original Message ------ From: "Bodhisattwa Mandal" bodhisattwa.rgkmc@gmail.com To: "discussion list for Wikisource, the free library" < wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org> Sent: 7/04/2018 12:03:09 AM Subject: [Wikisource-l] Wikidata property for non-fiction characters
Hi,
is there any Wikidata property for characters depicted in non-fiction literatures? I found Properties like characters (P674) for fictions, depicts (P180) for works like paintings, main subject (P921) for primary topic of a work, but couldn't find something for non-fictions. Am I missing something?
-- Bodhisattwa
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Thats correct, Nicolas. I was asking about that. Thanks. ~~~~
On 6 April 2018 at 21:36, Nicolas VIGNERON vigneron.nicolas@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
If I understand correctly, Bodhisattwa, you want the same thing as P674 but for people and non-fiction (instead of character and fiction). AFAIK, that doesn't exist yet but you should ask for it (on https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal ).
Cdlt, ~nicolas
2018-04-06 17:54 GMT+02:00 billinghurst billinghurstwiki@gmail.com:
Aren't they just called people? What are you looking to achieve?
- depicts (P180) https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P180
- statement is subject of (P805)
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P805
- subject has role (P2868)
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P2868
- owner of (P1830) https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1830
- dedicated to (P825) https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P825
- identity of subject in context (P4649)
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P4649
- patron (P1962) https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1962
I predominantly use P805 where it is a chapter, or biographical entry about a person, so if you can give more context
-- Billinghurst
------ Original Message ------ From: "Bodhisattwa Mandal" bodhisattwa.rgkmc@gmail.com To: "discussion list for Wikisource, the free library" < wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org> Sent: 7/04/2018 12:03:09 AM Subject: [Wikisource-l] Wikidata property for non-fiction characters
Hi,
is there any Wikidata property for characters depicted in non-fiction literatures? I found Properties like characters (P674) for fictions, depicts (P180) for works like paintings, main subject (P921) for primary topic of a work, but couldn't find something for non-fictions. Am I missing something?
-- Bodhisattwa
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Hi,
In this item https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q12308313 the property Characters (P674) https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P674 has been used for a non-fiction literary work, whereas the property is said to be related to works of fiction. Now, I am confused, if P674 is allowed for non-fiction or not?
I am also finding difficulty to propose a name for the new property for non-fiction characters, shall it be ''Characters in non-fictions'' or is there any specific term for it?
Help needed.
On 6 April 2018 at 21:38, Bodhisattwa Mandal bodhisattwa.rgkmc@gmail.com wrote:
Thats correct, Nicolas. I was asking about that. Thanks. ~~~~
On 6 April 2018 at 21:36, Nicolas VIGNERON vigneron.nicolas@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
If I understand correctly, Bodhisattwa, you want the same thing as P674 but for people and non-fiction (instead of character and fiction). AFAIK, that doesn't exist yet but you should ask for it (on https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal ).
Cdlt, ~nicolas
2018-04-06 17:54 GMT+02:00 billinghurst billinghurstwiki@gmail.com:
Aren't they just called people? What are you looking to achieve?
- depicts (P180) https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P180
- statement is subject of (P805)
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P805
- subject has role (P2868)
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P2868
- owner of (P1830) https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1830
- dedicated to (P825) https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P825
- identity of subject in context (P4649)
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P4649
- patron (P1962) https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1962
I predominantly use P805 where it is a chapter, or biographical entry about a person, so if you can give more context
-- Billinghurst
------ Original Message ------ From: "Bodhisattwa Mandal" bodhisattwa.rgkmc@gmail.com To: "discussion list for Wikisource, the free library" < wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org> Sent: 7/04/2018 12:03:09 AM Subject: [Wikisource-l] Wikidata property for non-fiction characters
Hi,
is there any Wikidata property for characters depicted in non-fiction literatures? I found Properties like characters (P674) for fictions, depicts (P180) for works like paintings, main subject (P921) for primary topic of a work, but couldn't find something for non-fictions. Am I missing something?
-- Bodhisattwa
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-- Bodhisattwa
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