As published in 1914 it is PD in US. Its copyright status in Gernany (published in Dresden) is probably unclear, so it should not be uploaded to Commons. It can be uploaded locally to oldwikisource and, likely, to some other wikis that recognize US copyright status only. Ankry W dniu 2017-12-03 21:40:20 użytkownik mathieu stumpf guntz psychoslave@culture-libre.org napisał: No. I don't have a book I would like to try it in mind, and I guess it would be pointless to import an random book on which I don't plane to work, wouldn't it? Right I would have been interested to find works of Charlotte Pulvers, especially Elzasaj Legendoj, but actually I'm not even completely sure the book is in public domain as I didn't found her vital records. Cheers Le 03/12/2017 à 01:47, Sam Wilson a écrit : I agree there might be some work to do at some future point when we're trying to import mixed-media works into Wikisource, but I'm afraid for now the sole purpose of ia-upload is to convert IA scans of books into DjVus. MP3s or any other non-text work cannot be converted with this tool. Have you tried using it? Did you notice any problems? — Sam. On Sun, 3 Dec 2017, at 06:03 AM, mathieu stumpf guntz wrote: Le 29/11/2017 à 08:47, Sam Wilson a écrit : * Attempts to use the tool on items that don't have DjVu, PDF, or JP2 Zip files will now fail. I'm not sure what people who were attempting to make DjVus of MP3s were thinking, but they'll get a nicer error message now. Apart from the file format, which was under some patent issues until last year and should be soon be available to Commons (if not yet), what would be the problem with uploading the file to Commons? All the more, some books might have sound component. My daughter have a whole library of that kind. She also have plenty of book with tactile data which often make me wonder how we would integrate such a book in Wikisource, as I'm not aware of any technology to render that kind of data linked to the material texture. Defining a file format to store that kind of data would be surely the easy part, all the more when "digital texture" is a topic already extensively covered in the literature for 3D rendering purpose. Just sharing some thoughts… I dare say I'm broken something along the way, so do keep an eye out for weirdnesses and let me know. Thanks, sam. _______________________________________________ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
Le 04/12/2017 à 12:41, ankry.wiki a écrit :
As published in 1914 it is PD in US.
Doesn't that apply only to books published in US?
Its copyright status in Gernany (published in Dresden) is probably unclear, so it should not be uploaded to Commons.
Its copyright status in Europe depends on Charlotte vital records, but so far I was not able to find any related data, especially her death date. If anyone have ideas about where I might found them, I open to suggestions.
It can be uploaded locally to oldwikisource and, likely, to some other wikis that recognize US copyright status only.
Good to know.
Ankry W dniu 2017-12-03 21:40:20 użytkownik mathieu stumpf guntz psychoslave@culture-libre.org napisał:
No. I don't have a book I would like to try it in mind, and I guess it would be pointless to import an random book on which I don't plane to work, wouldn't it? Right I would have been interested to find works of Charlotte Pulvers <https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlotte_Pulvers>, especially Elzasaj Legendoj <https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elzasaj_Legendoj>, but actually I'm not even completely sure the book is in public domain as I didn't found her vital records. Cheers Le 03/12/2017 à 01:47, Sam Wilson a écrit : I agree there might be some work to do at some future point when we're trying to import mixed-media works into Wikisource, but I'm afraid for now the sole purpose of ia-upload is to convert IA scans of books into DjVus. MP3s or any other non-text work cannot be converted with this tool. Have you tried using it? Did you notice any problems? — Sam. On Sun, 3 Dec 2017, at 06:03 AM, mathieu stumpf guntz wrote: Le 29/11/2017 à 08:47, Sam Wilson a écrit : * Attempts to use the tool on items that don't have DjVu, PDF, or JP2 Zip files will now fail. I'm not sure what people who were attempting to make DjVus of MP3s were thinking, but they'll get a nicer error message now. Apart from the file format, which was under some patent issues until last year and should be soon be available to Commons (if not yet), what would be the problem with uploading the file to Commons? All the more, some books might have sound component. My daughter have a whole library of that kind. She also have plenty of book with tactile data which often make me wonder how we would integrate such a book in Wikisource, as I'm not aware of any technology to render that kind of data linked to the material texture. Defining a file format to store that kind of data would be surely the easy part, all the more when "digital texture" is a topic already extensively covered in the literature for 3D rendering purpose. Just sharing some thoughts… I dare say I'm broken something along the way, so do keep an eye out for weirdnesses and let me know. Thanks, sam. _______________________________________________ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
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On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 3:47 PM mathieu stumpf guntz < psychoslave@culture-libre.org> wrote:
Le 04/12/2017 à 12:41, ankry.wiki a écrit :
As published in 1914 it is PD in US.
Doesn't that apply only to books published in US?
No. It is generally accepted, including by the US Copyright Office, en.WS and Wikimedia Commons, that works legally published anywhere in the world before 1923 are out of copyright in the US.
(The 9th Circuit of the US Federal Court has ruled that "published" only includes in the US (which, in case of a pre-2002 publication in the US, could still mean that works are copyrighted in the US for 95 years from US publication or until 2047, depending), but nobody else accepts that and I believe Mike Godwin was happy to have a case on the matter to take to the Supreme Court, so the WMF might be happy with such a case.)
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