Hello guys, are you preparing for the contest? Can we use this mailing list to coordinate and understand how many contests will be there?
It would be nice if we could coordinate, or at least use shared scripts and tools. Maybe it's better to have an overview of what is needed to run the contest.
WHAT DO YOU NEED * a collection of books to be proofread this is really easy :-)
* a Wikisource contest page like this one: https://it.wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:Undicesimo_compleanno_di_Wikisourc...
* some social media coverage you can use social media etc., we always try to convince the it.wikipedia to use their SiteNotice... Of course, you must also use your own Wikisource sitenotice.
* some awards if you have a national Wikimedia chapter, it's good to ask for few bucks. In Italy, we awarded 3 prizes with just 100 euros (50 euros worth book voucher as a 1st prize, 30 and 20 for 2nd and 3rd).
* a way to count validated and proofread pages. If I'm not mistaken, the code is here: http://pastebin.com/Vk6ikCUg
WHAT YOU NEED TO DECIDE
* time In Italy, we wanted to go from 24 November at 00.01 till 1st December at 23.59.
* scoring In it.source, we will probably award 3 points for every proofread page and 1 point for every validated page.
* awards Last year, it.source only allowed to validate pages (and not to proofread). We awarded the first prize to the "user who validated more pages". The second and the third prizes instead were randomly extracted from the others: but the more pages a user validated, the more chances he had. Every validated page (or point) counts as a lottery ticket: the more I have, the more chances too.
Cristian Cantoro made also this awesome tool to pick the 3 winners, we should adapt it for every contest: http://balist.es/wscontest/
I believe everything can be easily adapted if you both allow to proofread and validate at the same time
I really hope many Wikisources will be present this year :-)
Aubrey
Hi Aubrey!
I'll be away for some months, but on ca-ws there will be a contest anyhow, this is the project page: https://ca.wikisource.org/wiki/Viquitexts:Viquirepte_Jocs_Florals_de_Barcelo...
KRLS will be there coordinating and running the bot :)
So exciting! I hope there will be more contests this year! Micru
On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 11:41 PM, Andrea Zanni zanni.andrea84@gmail.com wrote:
Hello guys, are you preparing for the contest? Can we use this mailing list to coordinate and understand how many contests will be there?
It would be nice if we could coordinate, or at least use shared scripts and tools. Maybe it's better to have an overview of what is needed to run the contest.
WHAT DO YOU NEED
- a collection of books to be proofread
this is really easy :-)
- a Wikisource contest page
like this one: https://it.wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:Undicesimo_compleanno_di_Wikisourc...
- some social media coverage
you can use social media etc., we always try to convince the it.wikipedia to use their SiteNotice... Of course, you must also use your own Wikisource sitenotice.
- some awards
if you have a national Wikimedia chapter, it's good to ask for few bucks. In Italy, we awarded 3 prizes with just 100 euros (50 euros worth book voucher as a 1st prize, 30 and 20 for 2nd and 3rd).
- a way to count validated and proofread pages.
If I'm not mistaken, the code is here: http://pastebin.com/Vk6ikCUg
WHAT YOU NEED TO DECIDE
- time
In Italy, we wanted to go from 24 November at 00.01 till 1st December at 23.59.
- scoring
In it.source, we will probably award 3 points for every proofread page and 1 point for every validated page.
- awards
Last year, it.source only allowed to validate pages (and not to proofread). We awarded the first prize to the "user who validated more pages". The second and the third prizes instead were randomly extracted from the others: but the more pages a user validated, the more chances he had. Every validated page (or point) counts as a lottery ticket: the more I have, the more chances too.
Cristian Cantoro made also this awesome tool to pick the 3 winners, we should adapt it for every contest: http://balist.es/wscontest/
I believe everything can be easily adapted if you both allow to proofread and validate at the same time
I really hope many Wikisources will be present this year :-)
Aubrey
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No discussion at enWS, though we generally are continually running with something, though not heard anyone mentioned 11th anniversary.
The thought that I did had that may be of interest was a coordinated xwiki transcription of the same work in multiple languages, and if one work is finished at one wiki, we could encourage that work to be completed at other wikis.
Regards, Billinghurst
On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Andrea Zanni zanni.andrea84@gmail.com wrote:
Hello guys, are you preparing for the contest? Can we use this mailing list to coordinate and understand how many contests will be there?
It would be nice if we could coordinate, or at least use shared scripts and tools. Maybe it's better to have an overview of what is needed to run the contest.
WHAT DO YOU NEED
- a collection of books to be proofread
this is really easy :-)
- a Wikisource contest page
like this one: https://it.wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:Undicesimo_compleanno_di_Wikisourc...
- some social media coverage
you can use social media etc., we always try to convince the it.wikipedia to use their SiteNotice... Of course, you must also use your own Wikisource sitenotice.
- some awards
if you have a national Wikimedia chapter, it's good to ask for few bucks. In Italy, we awarded 3 prizes with just 100 euros (50 euros worth book voucher as a 1st prize, 30 and 20 for 2nd and 3rd).
- a way to count validated and proofread pages.
If I'm not mistaken, the code is here: http://pastebin.com/Vk6ikCUg
WHAT YOU NEED TO DECIDE
- time
In Italy, we wanted to go from 24 November at 00.01 till 1st December at 23.59.
- scoring
In it.source, we will probably award 3 points for every proofread page and 1 point for every validated page.
- awards
Last year, it.source only allowed to validate pages (and not to proofread). We awarded the first prize to the "user who validated more pages". The second and the third prizes instead were randomly extracted from the others: but the more pages a user validated, the more chances he had. Every validated page (or point) counts as a lottery ticket: the more I have, the more chances too.
Cristian Cantoro made also this awesome tool to pick the 3 winners, we should adapt it for every contest: http://balist.es/wscontest/
I believe everything can be easily adapted if you both allow to proofread and validate at the same time
I really hope many Wikisources will be present this year :-)
Aubrey
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As David said, Catalan wikisource community and Amical wikimedia are working in a new edition of this contest. This year, it will have a theme and it will be Barcelona Floral Games.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floral_Games
There will be 48 books from 1859 (1st edition of modern floral games) to 1907. Digitalitzations come from google books, but they were free access (it doesn't mean no cost) only with USA IPs. In addition, they were hard to access because metada was wrong and different books were displayed in a same file. We didn't find 3 books, but we are seeking them in libraries. Almost all books are poetry book, but some editions include theatre and novel. We know that our scope is too ambicious, but we expect that almost all editings will be in no more than ten books.
We prefer go the contest from 14th november to 24th november, because it's planned a sister projects edithathon and differents sister projects discussion sessions in the catalan community meetup (15-16 nov). It's the perfect place to encourage participants to edit in wikisource.
Finally, I encouraged some wikimedia spain members in wikimania to participate this year. They seemed interested. Today, I will ping them.
Carles El dia 02/11/2014 23.41, "Andrea Zanni" zanni.andrea84@gmail.com va escriure:
Hello guys, are you preparing for the contest? Can we use this mailing list to coordinate and understand how many contests will be there?
It would be nice if we could coordinate, or at least use shared scripts and tools. Maybe it's better to have an overview of what is needed to run the contest.
WHAT DO YOU NEED
- a collection of books to be proofread
this is really easy :-)
- a Wikisource contest page
like this one: https://it.wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:Undicesimo_compleanno_di_Wikisourc...
- some social media coverage
you can use social media etc., we always try to convince the it.wikipedia to use their SiteNotice... Of course, you must also use your own Wikisource sitenotice.
- some awards
if you have a national Wikimedia chapter, it's good to ask for few bucks. In Italy, we awarded 3 prizes with just 100 euros (50 euros worth book voucher as a 1st prize, 30 and 20 for 2nd and 3rd).
- a way to count validated and proofread pages.
If I'm not mistaken, the code is here: http://pastebin.com/Vk6ikCUg
WHAT YOU NEED TO DECIDE
- time
In Italy, we wanted to go from 24 November at 00.01 till 1st December at 23.59.
- scoring
In it.source, we will probably award 3 points for every proofread page and 1 point for every validated page.
- awards
Last year, it.source only allowed to validate pages (and not to proofread). We awarded the first prize to the "user who validated more pages". The second and the third prizes instead were randomly extracted from the others: but the more pages a user validated, the more chances he had. Every validated page (or point) counts as a lottery ticket: the more I have, the more chances too.
Cristian Cantoro made also this awesome tool to pick the 3 winners, we should adapt it for every contest: http://balist.es/wscontest/
I believe everything can be easily adapted if you both allow to proofread and validate at the same time
I really hope many Wikisources will be present this year :-)
Aubrey
Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Carles Paredes Lanau < carlesparedes@gmail.com> wrote:
(...) Digitalitzations come from google books, but they were free access (it doesn't mean no cost) only with USA IPs. In addition, they were hard to access because metada was wrong and different books were displayed in a same file. We didn't find 3 books, but we are seeking them in libraries. Almost all books are poetry book, but some editions include theatre and novel. We know that our scope is too ambicious, but we expect that almost all editings will be in no more than ten books.
Have you tried HathiTrust ? [1] [2]
In short, some libraries that have allowed Google to digitize their books realized the big mess that was done on metadata an scan quality and managed to create a kinda of fork with very powerful search capabilities plus a feedback space that you can request to re-digitize some books.
They restrict the download in the very same way as Google Book Search does regarding year of publication and USA IP address. But using a third part download manager [3] you can get scans in JPEG/PNG up to "400%" resolution, what makes the OCR quality and DjVu generation very improved.
I personally download from them using a Virtual Machine with a Hotspot Shield [4] installation, that provides me a IP from USA.
If you or someone else needs, I will be glad to generate/regenerate DjVus for those titles (ATM I've generated few dozens to pt.wikisource, but I'm uploading those very slowly most to personal laziness xD )
[1] - http://www.hathitrust.org/ [2] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HathiTrust [3] - http://qt-apps.org/content/show.php/Hathi+Download+Helper?content=158702 [4] - http://www.hotspotshield.com/
Armenian Wikisource may also join for a contest or proofpageathon. Main target will be proofreading of Soviet Armenian Encylopedia, as that's the biggest and yet unproofread work we have, and Wikipedians will be most enthusiastic about that one (and few other encyclopedias). Dates are tentative, as of now.
2014-11-04 0:20 GMT+04:00 Luiz Augusto lugusto@gmail.com:
On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Carles Paredes Lanau < carlesparedes@gmail.com> wrote:
(...) Digitalitzations come from google books, but they were free access (it doesn't mean no cost) only with USA IPs. In addition, they were hard to access because metada was wrong and different books were displayed in a same file. We didn't find 3 books, but we are seeking them in libraries. Almost all books are poetry book, but some editions include theatre and novel. We know that our scope is too ambicious, but we expect that almost all editings will be in no more than ten books.
Have you tried HathiTrust ? [1] [2]
In short, some libraries that have allowed Google to digitize their books realized the big mess that was done on metadata an scan quality and managed to create a kinda of fork with very powerful search capabilities plus a feedback space that you can request to re-digitize some books.
They restrict the download in the very same way as Google Book Search does regarding year of publication and USA IP address. But using a third part download manager [3] you can get scans in JPEG/PNG up to "400%" resolution, what makes the OCR quality and DjVu generation very improved.
I personally download from them using a Virtual Machine with a Hotspot Shield [4] installation, that provides me a IP from USA.
If you or someone else needs, I will be glad to generate/regenerate DjVus for those titles (ATM I've generated few dozens to pt.wikisource, but I'm uploading those very slowly most to personal laziness xD )
[1] - http://www.hathitrust.org/ [2] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HathiTrust [3] - http://qt-apps.org/content/show.php/Hathi+Download+Helper?content=158702 [4] - http://www.hotspotshield.com/
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