Dear Wikisourcerors, I'm planning to go to Wikimania and submit a speech, which goes like: *Wikisource: what we've done, what we could do better* (or "What we got right, what we'd get better") http://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/Wikisource:_what_we%27ve...
Anyway, the idea is very simple: 1. We need to talk about Wikisource at Wikimania. Period. 2. I'd like to speak about the things Wikisource is good at, and the good framework we developed over the years (eg. the Proofread extension) Nonetheless, Wikisources suffers significant flaws, as a proper metadata system (Dublin Core metadata, OAI-MPH complaint system), which prevents us to collaborate with other projects, as Europeana, or other digital libraries.
Now, I'm writing you to ask you if such a panel/workshop would be interesting, and to ask you if it would be better, with your help, to create a panel in which some of us describe the best aspects and features of their Wikisource.
Let me know if any of you could be interested in this.
Aubrey
PS: Cristian Consonni, my fellow board member in Wikimedia Italy, has proposed a presentation about a reCAPTCHA for Wikisource: http://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/Wikicaptcha:_a_ReCAPTCHA...
2012/3/12 Andrea Zanni andrea.zanni@wikimedia.it:
Dear Wikisourcerors, I'm planning to go to Wikimania and submit a speech, which goes like: *Wikisource: what we've done, what we could do better* (or "What we got right, what we'd get better") http://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/Wikisource:_what_we%27ve...
Anyway, the idea is very simple:
- We need to talk about Wikisource at Wikimania. Period.
I submitted a talk about Wikisource, too: https://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/The_hundred-year_old_we...
The idea of my talk is to show how Wikisource projects are useful in real life in surprising ways. Admittedly, some projects mentioned there are my own pet projects. My plan was that for the Malayalam Wikisource part i would invite a guest speaker; from what i heard about it, this project deserves a whole talk of its own, but if no-one else steps up, it will a part of mine.
I'm *totally* open for ideas. For example, my talk can be a part of series of talks or of a panel. Or i could add other projects that anybody would suggest to my talk. Or i can do a short presentation as part of another talk, if anybody believes that this would be more efficient.
Nonetheless, Wikisources suffers significant flaws, as a proper metadata system (Dublin Core metadata, OAI-MPH complaint system), which prevents us to collaborate with other projects, as Europeana, or other digital libraries.
Now, I'm writing you to ask you if such a panel/workshop would be interesting, and to ask you if it would be better, with your help, to create a panel in which some of us describe the best aspects and features of their Wikisource.
It would definitely interest me.
It would definitely interest many more people, but you should be careful about using too much lingo. Librarians and information scientists will love words like "Dublin Core metadata" and "OAI-MPH complaint system", but other people will be scared away. So please do talk about what these things are and how they will be useful, but don't emphasize the professional jargon too much in the abstract and in the slides. (I organized the schedule for a Wikimania just a few short months ago. Trust me.)
Another huge thing that is missing from Wikisource is a better way to organize proofread pages into exportable books. People come up with projects that are supposed to fix that every now and then, but nothing substantial came out of it yet (unless i'm missing some elephant in the room). This could be mentioned
-- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
2012/3/12 Amir E. Aharoni amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il:
2012/3/12 Andrea Zanni andrea.zanni@wikimedia.it:
Dear Wikisourcerors, I'm planning to go to Wikimania and submit a speech, which goes like: *Wikisource: what we've done, what we could do better* (or "What we got right, what we'd get better") http://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/Wikisource:_what_we%27ve...
Anyway, the idea is very simple:
- We need to talk about Wikisource at Wikimania. Period.
I submitted a talk about Wikisource, too: https://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/The_hundred-year_old_we...
There is also a submission from Tpt and me about ebook, microformat and semantic.
https://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/Getting_ebooks_on_Wikis...
Pyb
Well, it seems that there's a lot going on about Wikisource :-) I'm very happy about it.
I don't really know the procedure of selection of the talks, but could it be possible to have/propose a "Wikisource" panel on its own?
We would have a more technical part (Tpt and Pierre ebooks + Cristian's wikicaptcha) and a less technical one with me and Amir (I'm quite flexible on what to talk about), plus anyone who is willing to join.
Do you think it is a good idea?
Aubrey
2012/3/12 Pierre Yves Beaudouin pierre.beaudouin@wikimedia.fr:
2012/3/12 Amir E. Aharoni amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il:
2012/3/12 Andrea Zanni andrea.zanni@wikimedia.it:
Dear Wikisourcerors, I'm planning to go to Wikimania and submit a speech, which goes like: *Wikisource: what we've done, what we could do better* (or "What we got right, what we'd get better") http://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/Wikisource:_what_we%27ve...
Anyway, the idea is very simple:
- We need to talk about Wikisource at Wikimania. Period.
I submitted a talk about Wikisource, too: https://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/The_hundred-year_old_we...
There is also a submission from Tpt and me about ebook, microformat and semantic.
https://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/Getting_ebooks_on_Wikis...
Pyb
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2012/3/12 Andrea Zanni zanni.andrea84@gmail.com:
Well, it seems that there's a lot going on about Wikisource :-) I'm very happy about it.
I don't really know the procedure of selection of the talks, but could it be possible to have/propose a "Wikisource" panel on its own?
Just propose a panel. You can drop a line to the program team to make sure that they understand what you want: https://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Organizing_team#Program_team
Link to the other Wikisource proposals from your own.
We would have a more technical part (Tpt and Pierre ebooks + Cristian's wikicaptcha) and a less technical one with me and Amir (I'm quite flexible on what to talk about),
I will have one *slightly* technical part about WebFonts - i will showcase how they are helping to make Wikisource a repository able of hosting ancient (Biblical Hebrew) and very ancient (Cuneiform) texts. I will NOT dive into scary things like HTML and JavaScript, though i may mention words like "browser" and "dynamic loading" - but not any more technical than that.
As for all the rest, i'll focus on Real Life.
-- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
Aubrey
2012/3/12 Pierre Yves Beaudouin pierre.beaudouin@wikimedia.fr:
2012/3/12 Amir E. Aharoni amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il:
2012/3/12 Andrea Zanni andrea.zanni@wikimedia.it:
Dear Wikisourcerors, I'm planning to go to Wikimania and submit a speech, which goes like: *Wikisource: what we've done, what we could do better* (or "What we got right, what we'd get better") http://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/Wikisource:_what_we%27ve...
Anyway, the idea is very simple:
- We need to talk about Wikisource at Wikimania. Period.
I submitted a talk about Wikisource, too: https://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/The_hundred-year_old_we...
There is also a submission from Tpt and me about ebook, microformat and semantic.
https://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/Getting_ebooks_on_Wikis...
Pyb
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I could do it, but just if everyone is willing to and OK with the idea. Maybe we have a better chance all together than alone, but, really, I don't want to impose my view, I could actually drop my talk and endorse yours.
Aubrey
2012/3/12 Amir E. Aharoni amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il:
2012/3/12 Andrea Zanni zanni.andrea84@gmail.com:
Well, it seems that there's a lot going on about Wikisource :-) I'm very happy about it.
I don't really know the procedure of selection of the talks, but could it be possible to have/propose a "Wikisource" panel on its own?
Just propose a panel. You can drop a line to the program team to make sure that they understand what you want: https://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Organizing_team#Program_team
Link to the other Wikisource proposals from your own.
We would have a more technical part (Tpt and Pierre ebooks + Cristian's wikicaptcha) and a less technical one with me and Amir (I'm quite flexible on what to talk about),
I will have one *slightly* technical part about WebFonts - i will showcase how they are helping to make Wikisource a repository able of hosting ancient (Biblical Hebrew) and very ancient (Cuneiform) texts. I will NOT dive into scary things like HTML and JavaScript, though i may mention words like "browser" and "dynamic loading" - but not any more technical than that.
As for all the rest, i'll focus on Real Life.
-- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
Aubrey
2012/3/12 Pierre Yves Beaudouin pierre.beaudouin@wikimedia.fr:
2012/3/12 Amir E. Aharoni amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il:
2012/3/12 Andrea Zanni andrea.zanni@wikimedia.it:
Dear Wikisourcerors, I'm planning to go to Wikimania and submit a speech, which goes like: *Wikisource: what we've done, what we could do better* (or "What we got right, what we'd get better") http://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/Wikisource:_what_we%27ve...
Anyway, the idea is very simple:
- We need to talk about Wikisource at Wikimania. Period.
I submitted a talk about Wikisource, too: https://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/The_hundred-year_old_we...
There is also a submission from Tpt and me about ebook, microformat and semantic.
https://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/Getting_ebooks_on_Wikis...
Pyb
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Le 12 mars 12 à 20:55, Andrea Zanni a écrit :
Well, it seems that there's a lot going on about Wikisource :-) I'm very happy about it.
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And so am I! I do hope I will go to Wikimania and that all these talks' proposals will take place. Aubrey, Pyb, Cristian and Amir, thank you for the try, anyway.
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