I doubt we can find 1000 works with PD translations into each Wikisource language, including Latin and Sanskrit. It would be hard to find 10. Mostly ancient.
Unlike Wikipedia, we present content that has already been created by somebody. We are not creating that ourselves. (except few ws accepting Wikisource translations)
Ankry
W dniu 2017-04-11 09:42:54 użytkownik mathieu stumpf guntz psychoslave@culture-libre.org napisał:
Hi Nemo,
We may establish a list a the "1000 works that every Wikisource should have" (with translation possibly needed).
What metric could we use to define such a list? Maybe reference frequency, but it requires statistics whose availability is unknown to me.
Statistically, psychoslave
Le 29/03/2017 à 08:30, Federico Leva (Nemo) a écrit :
One issue sometimes raised about Wikisource is how we know that we're working on the "right" books. Internet Archive is planning to textbooks starting from those which are most frequently assigned in USA schools: http://blog.archive.org/2017/03/29/books-donated-for-macarthur-foundation-10...
I was surprised to learn a project like OpenSyllabus exists and works, I emailed them to ask what it would take to do the same for other languages/geographies.
Nemo
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On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 2:46 AM ankry.wiki ankry.wiki@onet.pl wrote:
I doubt we can find 1000 works with PD translations into each Wikisource language, including Latin and Sanskrit. It would be hard to find 10. Mostly ancient.
Unlike Wikipedia, we present content that has already been created by somebody. We are not creating that ourselves. (except few ws accepting Wikisource translations) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
How many Wikisources don't accept user translations? I'd guess that at least half of them do.
It may not be universal, but you'll never know how many of those works actually have PD translations until you actually search for them. A list can at least provoke the search.
2017-04-11 13:17 GMT+02:00 David Starner prosfilaes@gmail.com:
On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 2:46 AM ankry.wiki ankry.wiki@onet.pl wrote:
I doubt we can find 1000 works with PD translations into each Wikisource
language, including Latin and Sanskrit.
It would be hard to find 10. Mostly ancient.
Unlike Wikipedia, we present content that has already been created by
somebody. We are not creating that ourselves.
(except few ws accepting Wikisource translations)
How many Wikisources don't accept user translations? I'd guess that at
least half of them do.
Good question. We should store clearly this information somewhere (on https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q19335648 and local pages ?).
It may not be universal, but you'll never know how many of those works
actually have PD translations until you actually search for them. A list can at least provoke the search.
Exactly. I can easily find to 10 works in most languages of the planet (The Bible, the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, Shakespeare, Conan Doyle, Dickens, Stevenson, Verne, some important international treaty and publication from the Vatican ; it's already a lot more than 10 works available in more than 100 languages)
Speaking of the UN, the UNESCO created the Index Translationum ( http://www.unesco.org/xtrans/bsstatlist.aspx ) that can be helpful here.
Cdlt, ~nicolas
PS: Latin or Sanskrit are not the thoughest challenges, try Breton or Venetian :P (by the way, the UDHR exist in these 4 languages and 500 more ;) only the Bible has more translations).
Magnus request was very good but here an other one : the 100 author with the most page on Wikisource.
Caveat, there is still a lot of work to do on Wikidata, some pages are probably missing (I can help there if needed) and the real numbers are higher than this request show. (and sorry, the label service label didn't work "time out")
The top 10 is : id name number wd:Q16867 Edgar Allan Poe 28 wd:Q9061 Marx 27 wd:Q692 Shakespeare 25 wd:Q34787 Engels 24 wd:Q7243 Tolstoï 23 wd:Q22670 Schiller 21 wd:Q7200 Pushkin 21 wd:Q5879 Goethe 20 wd:Q6197 Horace 20 wd:Q501 Baudelaire 20 (not exactly what I foresee before, the UN texts and the Bible has no unique author, it's logical it doesn't show here ; I forgot the russian author, mea magna culpa! and in fine, I'm surprised and sad not to see Doyle, Dickens, Stevenson, Verne here... at least, they are not far behind and they made it to the top 100 ;) )
Cdlt, ~nicolas
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