Talking with some members of Amical Wikimedia about how to celebrate the 10th aniversary, one of the proposals was to organize a proofreading contest.
Basically, we would select some books for the participants to proofread and validate and they would gather points for each page without errors. The person with the most points would win a Kindle donated by Amical Wikimedia.
However, we have been thinking that with the help of some members of the Wikisource User Group and other Chapters, then we could escalate it to an international proofreading contest, instead of being just regional. I guess ideally we would need 3 kindles and at least a volunteer from each community to organize it.
What do you think of the idea? Would you or any chapter that would like to get involved?
Micru
I can easily talk with Wikimedia Italy. Maybe they are interested. I would suggest not a Kindle :-), but a Kobo or other device that can read natively epubs :-D
Aubrey
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 4:08 PM, David Cuenca dacuetu@gmail.com wrote:
Talking with some members of Amical Wikimedia about how to celebrate the 10th aniversary, one of the proposals was to organize a proofreading contest.
Basically, we would select some books for the participants to proofread and validate and they would gather points for each page without errors. The person with the most points would win a Kindle donated by Amical Wikimedia.
However, we have been thinking that with the help of some members of the Wikisource User Group and other Chapters, then we could escalate it to an international proofreading contest, instead of being just regional. I guess ideally we would need 3 kindles and at least a volunteer from each community to organize it.
What do you think of the idea? Would you or any chapter that would like to get involved?
Micru
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Hi,
Good idea.
In France, I've ask to some people in Wikimedia France but nobody was really interrested and it's a bit too late (plus WLM was really exhausting again this year and it's not exactly over).
Nonetheless, we are doing a day to celebrate the anniversary in Rennes (Bretagne) with some wikimedians (and hopefully some french and breton wikisourcerers) at the Rennes public library. We will do both edit-a-thon on Wikipédia and upload some texte from the already digitize library (and correct them obviously but it take times to correct pages on Wikisource). More info on https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Rencontres/Ouest/2013#Apr%C3%A8...
Cdlt, ~nicolas
Great concept.
I think this would a great little project, and worth the expense for the WMAu chapter.
I helped run a small wikisource competition with Wikimedia Indonesia (esp. Ivonne & Siska) to transcribe a 550 page dictionary, and found it to be very successful, but does require quite a bit of time to run and help newbies.
Ill write up a proposal if another WMAu member is willing to second and help organise the competition in Oz.
-- John ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "David Cuenca" dacuetu@gmail.com Date: Oct 31, 2013 10:09 PM Subject: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource 10th aniversary proposal : Proofreading contest To: "discussion list for Wikisource, the free library" < wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org> Cc:
Talking with some members of Amical Wikimedia about how to celebrate the 10th aniversary, one of the proposals was to organize a proofreading contest.
Basically, we would select some books for the participants to proofread and validate and they would gather points for each page without errors. The person with the most points would win a Kindle donated by Amical Wikimedia.
However, we have been thinking that with the help of some members of the Wikisource User Group and other Chapters, then we could escalate it to an international proofreading contest, instead of being just regional. I guess ideally we would need 3 kindles and at least a volunteer from each community to organize it.
What do you think of the idea? Would you or any chapter that would like to get involved?
Micru
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Wikisource community is eager to do that :-) What about extending it for the whole week?
From 18 to 24, or from 24 to 30 we could have a Wikisource Week!
I think it's better, as we could let people have more time to read and proofread, and we could gain much more pages :-)
Of course, this is completely free, every community can do what they want.
Please, as always, go and discuss it with your own local community, and report back what they say!
Aubrey
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 7:55 AM, John Vandenberg jayvdb@gmail.com wrote:
Great concept.
I think this would a great little project, and worth the expense for the WMAu chapter.
I helped run a small wikisource competition with Wikimedia Indonesia (esp. Ivonne & Siska) to transcribe a 550 page dictionary, and found it to be very successful, but does require quite a bit of time to run and help newbies.
Ill write up a proposal if another WMAu member is willing to second and help organise the competition in Oz.
-- John ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "David Cuenca" dacuetu@gmail.com Date: Oct 31, 2013 10:09 PM Subject: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource 10th aniversary proposal : Proofreading contest To: "discussion list for Wikisource, the free library" < wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org> Cc:
Talking with some members of Amical Wikimedia about how to celebrate the 10th aniversary, one of the proposals was to organize a proofreading contest.
Basically, we would select some books for the participants to proofread and validate and they would gather points for each page without errors. The person with the most points would win a Kindle donated by Amical Wikimedia.
However, we have been thinking that with the help of some members of the Wikisource User Group and other Chapters, then we could escalate it to an international proofreading contest, instead of being just regional. I guess ideally we would need 3 kindles and at least a volunteer from each community to organize it.
What do you think of the idea? Would you or any chapter that would like to get involved?
Micru
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I think it's better "from 24 to 30", because we will have the media coverage of 24-Nov and we will advantage it.
To do list: - ensure the 3 prizes. (Amical prize is sure) - list of wikisource communities willing to participate - consensus the rules.
Carles
2013/11/2 Andrea Zanni zanni.andrea84@gmail.com
Wikisource community is eager to do that :-) What about extending it for the whole week?
From 18 to 24, or from 24 to 30 we could have a Wikisource Week! I think it's better, as we could let people have more time to read and proofread, and we could gain much more pages :-)
Of course, this is completely free, every community can do what they want.
Please, as always, go and discuss it with your own local community, and report back what they say!
Aubrey
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 7:55 AM, John Vandenberg jayvdb@gmail.com wrote:
Great concept.
I think this would a great little project, and worth the expense for the WMAu chapter.
I helped run a small wikisource competition with Wikimedia Indonesia (esp. Ivonne & Siska) to transcribe a 550 page dictionary, and found it to be very successful, but does require quite a bit of time to run and help newbies.
Ill write up a proposal if another WMAu member is willing to second and help organise the competition in Oz.
-- John ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "David Cuenca" dacuetu@gmail.com Date: Oct 31, 2013 10:09 PM Subject: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource 10th aniversary proposal : Proofreading contest To: "discussion list for Wikisource, the free library" < wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org> Cc:
Talking with some members of Amical Wikimedia about how to celebrate the 10th aniversary, one of the proposals was to organize a proofreading contest.
Basically, we would select some books for the participants to proofread and validate and they would gather points for each page without errors. The person with the most points would win a Kindle donated by Amical Wikimedia.
However, we have been thinking that with the help of some members of the Wikisource User Group and other Chapters, then we could escalate it to an international proofreading contest, instead of being just regional. I guess ideally we would need 3 kindles and at least a volunteer from each community to organize it.
What do you think of the idea? Would you or any chapter that would like to get involved?
Micru
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Hi John,
What sort of cost are we looking at to buy some nifty gadget as a prize? Is it something that could be done through our Volunteer Support Programme?
Cheers, Craig Franklin President - Wikimedia Australia
On 1 November 2013 16:55, John Vandenberg jayvdb@gmail.com wrote:
Great concept.
I think this would a great little project, and worth the expense for the WMAu chapter.
I helped run a small wikisource competition with Wikimedia Indonesia (esp. Ivonne & Siska) to transcribe a 550 page dictionary, and found it to be very successful, but does require quite a bit of time to run and help newbies.
Ill write up a proposal if another WMAu member is willing to second and help organise the competition in Oz.
-- John ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "David Cuenca" dacuetu@gmail.com Date: Oct 31, 2013 10:09 PM Subject: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource 10th aniversary proposal : Proofreading contest To: "discussion list for Wikisource, the free library" < wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org> Cc:
Talking with some members of Amical Wikimedia about how to celebrate the 10th aniversary, one of the proposals was to organize a proofreading contest.
Basically, we would select some books for the participants to proofread and validate and they would gather points for each page without errors. The person with the most points would win a Kindle donated by Amical Wikimedia.
However, we have been thinking that with the help of some members of the Wikisource User Group and other Chapters, then we could escalate it to an international proofreading contest, instead of being just regional. I guess ideally we would need 3 kindles and at least a volunteer from each community to organize it.
What do you think of the idea? Would you or any chapter that would like to get involved?
Micru
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Well, I'd be 100 dollars/euros, something low budget (like a Kindle or a Kobo).
Aubrey
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Craig Franklin cfranklin@halonetwork.netwrote:
Hi John,
What sort of cost are we looking at to buy some nifty gadget as a prize? Is it something that could be done through our Volunteer Support Programme?
Cheers, Craig Franklin President - Wikimedia Australia
On 1 November 2013 16:55, John Vandenberg jayvdb@gmail.com wrote:
Great concept.
I think this would a great little project, and worth the expense for the WMAu chapter.
I helped run a small wikisource competition with Wikimedia Indonesia (esp. Ivonne & Siska) to transcribe a 550 page dictionary, and found it to be very successful, but does require quite a bit of time to run and help newbies.
Ill write up a proposal if another WMAu member is willing to second and help organise the competition in Oz.
-- John ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "David Cuenca" dacuetu@gmail.com Date: Oct 31, 2013 10:09 PM Subject: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource 10th aniversary proposal : Proofreading contest To: "discussion list for Wikisource, the free library" < wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org> Cc:
Talking with some members of Amical Wikimedia about how to celebrate the 10th aniversary, one of the proposals was to organize a proofreading contest.
Basically, we would select some books for the participants to proofread and validate and they would gather points for each page without errors. The person with the most points would win a Kindle donated by Amical Wikimedia.
However, we have been thinking that with the help of some members of the Wikisource User Group and other Chapters, then we could escalate it to an international proofreading contest, instead of being just regional. I guess ideally we would need 3 kindles and at least a volunteer from each community to organize it.
What do you think of the idea? Would you or any chapter that would like to get involved?
Micru
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Well, that would be well within the realm of what the WMAU "Volunteer Support Programme" would be able to fund, if one of our members were to apply:
http://www.wikimedia.org.au//wiki/Volunteer_Support_Programme
Cheers, Craig
On 4 November 2013 22:18, Andrea Zanni zanni.andrea84@gmail.com wrote:
Well, I'd be 100 dollars/euros, something low budget (like a Kindle or a Kobo).
Aubrey
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Craig Franklin cfranklin@halonetwork.netwrote:
Hi John,
What sort of cost are we looking at to buy some nifty gadget as a prize? Is it something that could be done through our Volunteer Support Programme?
Cheers, Craig Franklin President - Wikimedia Australia
On 1 November 2013 16:55, John Vandenberg jayvdb@gmail.com wrote:
Great concept.
I think this would a great little project, and worth the expense for the WMAu chapter.
I helped run a small wikisource competition with Wikimedia Indonesia (esp. Ivonne & Siska) to transcribe a 550 page dictionary, and found it to be very successful, but does require quite a bit of time to run and help newbies.
Ill write up a proposal if another WMAu member is willing to second and help organise the competition in Oz.
-- John ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "David Cuenca" dacuetu@gmail.com Date: Oct 31, 2013 10:09 PM Subject: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource 10th aniversary proposal : Proofreading contest To: "discussion list for Wikisource, the free library" < wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org> Cc:
Talking with some members of Amical Wikimedia about how to celebrate the 10th aniversary, one of the proposals was to organize a proofreading contest.
Basically, we would select some books for the participants to proofread and validate and they would gather points for each page without errors. The person with the most points would win a Kindle donated by Amical Wikimedia.
However, we have been thinking that with the help of some members of the Wikisource User Group and other Chapters, then we could escalate it to an international proofreading contest, instead of being just regional. I guess ideally we would need 3 kindles and at least a volunteer from each community to organize it.
What do you think of the idea? Would you or any chapter that would like to get involved?
Micru
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Regarding the cotest: how do you like an international contest, with both local wikisource and single user chart?
Something like Wiki Loves Monuments, like this: https://toolserver.org/~emijrp/wlm/stats.php
The real problem is that we *don't* have a way (right now), to associate clearly proofredings and validation with single users. I don't know how phe's tools count them, but I'm sure something could be done. toolserver.org/~phe/statistics.php?diff=1
Aubrey
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Craig Franklin cfranklin@halonetwork.netwrote:
Well, that would be well within the realm of what the WMAU "Volunteer Support Programme" would be able to fund, if one of our members were to apply:
http://www.wikimedia.org.au//wiki/Volunteer_Support_Programme
Cheers, Craig
On 4 November 2013 22:18, Andrea Zanni zanni.andrea84@gmail.com wrote:
Well, I'd be 100 dollars/euros, something low budget (like a Kindle or a Kobo).
Aubrey
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Craig Franklin <cfranklin@halonetwork.net
wrote:
Hi John,
What sort of cost are we looking at to buy some nifty gadget as a prize? Is it something that could be done through our Volunteer Support Programme?
Cheers, Craig Franklin President - Wikimedia Australia
On 1 November 2013 16:55, John Vandenberg jayvdb@gmail.com wrote:
Great concept.
I think this would a great little project, and worth the expense for the WMAu chapter.
I helped run a small wikisource competition with Wikimedia Indonesia (esp. Ivonne & Siska) to transcribe a 550 page dictionary, and found it to be very successful, but does require quite a bit of time to run and help newbies.
Ill write up a proposal if another WMAu member is willing to second and help organise the competition in Oz.
-- John ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "David Cuenca" dacuetu@gmail.com Date: Oct 31, 2013 10:09 PM Subject: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource 10th aniversary proposal : Proofreading contest To: "discussion list for Wikisource, the free library" < wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org> Cc:
Talking with some members of Amical Wikimedia about how to celebrate the 10th aniversary, one of the proposals was to organize a proofreading contest.
Basically, we would select some books for the participants to proofread and validate and they would gather points for each page without errors. The person with the most points would win a Kindle donated by Amical Wikimedia.
However, we have been thinking that with the help of some members of the Wikisource User Group and other Chapters, then we could escalate it to an international proofreading contest, instead of being just regional. I guess ideally we would need 3 kindles and at least a volunteer from each community to organize it.
What do you think of the idea? Would you or any chapter that would like to get involved?
Micru
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Since this is the first time we do it and we don't have enough organizational capacity, it will be easier to hold independent contests.
For the Catalan edition we are planning to do as follows: - the contest will be open from Nov 24th 00 UTC till Dec 1st 23:59 UTC. - 2 organizers select 3 books in secret (more will be added if needed). The books have OCR of acceptable quality and they are not too hard to format. The books chosen will be disclosed when the contest begins. One sample page will be offered, plus links to relevant help pages. We are putting it all together here: https://ca.wikisource.org/wiki/Viquitexts:Viquirepte_10%C3%A8_aniversari - the participants get 3 points for each completely corrected and formatted page, if they validate someone else's page, they get 1 point - the organizers can disqualify a participant if they mark pages as done without actually working on them - the prize will be an ebook reader (model TBD)
KRLS has told me that he will try to have a counting script ready, if not, we will count it manually.
So how many contests are we going to have? Italian, Catalan and, maybe WM-DC or WM-AU organize the English version?
When everything is clear we should prepare an annoncement and publish it next week on the Wikimedia blog.
Cheers, Micru
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Andrea Zanni zanni.andrea84@gmail.comwrote:
Regarding the cotest: how do you like an international contest, with both local wikisource and single user chart?
Something like Wiki Loves Monuments, like this: https://toolserver.org/~emijrp/wlm/stats.php
The real problem is that we *don't* have a way (right now), to associate clearly proofredings and validation with single users. I don't know how phe's tools count them, but I'm sure something could be done. toolserver.org/~phe/statistics.php?diff=1
Aubrey
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Craig Franklin cfranklin@halonetwork.netwrote:
Well, that would be well within the realm of what the WMAU "Volunteer Support Programme" would be able to fund, if one of our members were to apply:
http://www.wikimedia.org.au//wiki/Volunteer_Support_Programme
Cheers, Craig
On 4 November 2013 22:18, Andrea Zanni zanni.andrea84@gmail.com wrote:
Well, I'd be 100 dollars/euros, something low budget (like a Kindle or a Kobo).
Aubrey
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Craig Franklin < cfranklin@halonetwork.net> wrote:
Hi John,
What sort of cost are we looking at to buy some nifty gadget as a prize? Is it something that could be done through our Volunteer Support Programme?
Cheers, Craig Franklin President - Wikimedia Australia
On 1 November 2013 16:55, John Vandenberg jayvdb@gmail.com wrote:
Great concept.
I think this would a great little project, and worth the expense for the WMAu chapter.
I helped run a small wikisource competition with Wikimedia Indonesia (esp. Ivonne & Siska) to transcribe a 550 page dictionary, and found it to be very successful, but does require quite a bit of time to run and help newbies.
Ill write up a proposal if another WMAu member is willing to second and help organise the competition in Oz.
-- John ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "David Cuenca" dacuetu@gmail.com Date: Oct 31, 2013 10:09 PM Subject: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource 10th aniversary proposal : Proofreading contest To: "discussion list for Wikisource, the free library" < wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org> Cc:
Talking with some members of Amical Wikimedia about how to celebrate the 10th aniversary, one of the proposals was to organize a proofreading contest.
Basically, we would select some books for the participants to proofread and validate and they would gather points for each page without errors. The person with the most points would win a Kindle donated by Amical Wikimedia.
However, we have been thinking that with the help of some members of the Wikisource User Group and other Chapters, then we could escalate it to an international proofreading contest, instead of being just regional. I guess ideally we would need 3 kindles and at least a volunteer from each community to organize it.
What do you think of the idea? Would you or any chapter that would like to get involved?
Micru
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That's a good structure. If you take just 3 books the things can be standardized, so the texts are not that different. I can propose a similar structure for the Italian contest.
Aubrey
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 12:40 AM, David Cuenca dacuetu@gmail.com wrote:
Since this is the first time we do it and we don't have enough organizational capacity, it will be easier to hold independent contests.
For the Catalan edition we are planning to do as follows:
- the contest will be open from Nov 24th 00 UTC till Dec 1st 23:59 UTC.
- 2 organizers select 3 books in secret (more will be added if needed).
The books have OCR of acceptable quality and they are not too hard to format. The books chosen will be disclosed when the contest begins. One sample page will be offered, plus links to relevant help pages. We are putting it all together here: https://ca.wikisource.org/wiki/Viquitexts:Viquirepte_10%C3%A8_aniversari
- the participants get 3 points for each completely corrected and
formatted page, if they validate someone else's page, they get 1 point
- the organizers can disqualify a participant if they mark pages as done
without actually working on them
- the prize will be an ebook reader (model TBD)
KRLS has told me that he will try to have a counting script ready, if not, we will count it manually.
So how many contests are we going to have? Italian, Catalan and, maybe WM-DC or WM-AU organize the English version?
When everything is clear we should prepare an annoncement and publish it next week on the Wikimedia blog.
Cheers, Micru
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Andrea Zanni zanni.andrea84@gmail.comwrote:
Regarding the cotest: how do you like an international contest, with both local wikisource and single user chart?
Something like Wiki Loves Monuments, like this: https://toolserver.org/~emijrp/wlm/stats.php
The real problem is that we *don't* have a way (right now), to associate clearly proofredings and validation with single users. I don't know how phe's tools count them, but I'm sure something could be done. toolserver.org/~phe/statistics.php?diff=1
Aubrey
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Craig Franklin <cfranklin@halonetwork.net
wrote:
Well, that would be well within the realm of what the WMAU "Volunteer Support Programme" would be able to fund, if one of our members were to apply:
http://www.wikimedia.org.au//wiki/Volunteer_Support_Programme
Cheers, Craig
On 4 November 2013 22:18, Andrea Zanni zanni.andrea84@gmail.com wrote:
Well, I'd be 100 dollars/euros, something low budget (like a Kindle or a Kobo).
Aubrey
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Craig Franklin < cfranklin@halonetwork.net> wrote:
Hi John,
What sort of cost are we looking at to buy some nifty gadget as a prize? Is it something that could be done through our Volunteer Support Programme?
Cheers, Craig Franklin President - Wikimedia Australia
On 1 November 2013 16:55, John Vandenberg jayvdb@gmail.com wrote:
Great concept.
I think this would a great little project, and worth the expense for the WMAu chapter.
I helped run a small wikisource competition with Wikimedia Indonesia (esp. Ivonne & Siska) to transcribe a 550 page dictionary, and found it to be very successful, but does require quite a bit of time to run and help newbies.
Ill write up a proposal if another WMAu member is willing to second and help organise the competition in Oz.
-- John ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "David Cuenca" dacuetu@gmail.com Date: Oct 31, 2013 10:09 PM Subject: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource 10th aniversary proposal : Proofreading contest To: "discussion list for Wikisource, the free library" < wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org> Cc:
Talking with some members of Amical Wikimedia about how to celebrate the 10th aniversary, one of the proposals was to organize a proofreading contest.
Basically, we would select some books for the participants to proofread and validate and they would gather points for each page without errors. The person with the most points would win a Kindle donated by Amical Wikimedia.
However, we have been thinking that with the help of some members of the Wikisource User Group and other Chapters, then we could escalate it to an international proofreading contest, instead of being just regional. I guess ideally we would need 3 kindles and at least a volunteer from each community to organize it.
What do you think of the idea? Would you or any chapter that would like to get involved?
Micru
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