It is stupid but it is not simple. Nor is it just nine lines of codes, unless you intend
to withdraw all the rest. Frankly forking the extension is not my first preference. But
I think it is improbable for the lot of you to act with either the cool rationality or the
warm graciousness that would be required to heal the very complicated damage done to your
relationship. I find ending the relationship entirely to be merely the better of the
probable outcomes, not the absolute best. That is what leads me to encourage it.
Birgitte SB
--- On Wed, 11/18/09, Michael Jörgens <joergens.mic(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
From: Michael Jörgens
<joergens.mic(a)googlemail.com>
Subject: Re: [Wikisource-l] Proofreading
To: "discussion list for Wikisource, the free library"
<wikisource-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 12:22 PM
Brigitte,this is simply stupid (No
I'm not saying that your a stupid). We are talking abot
9 lines of code, and the communities, which want to stick to
no IP's, have this by default, without any change in
behaviour und usage. This extension is fully form fit
function compatible to the existing system. There is no
reason of technically forking, and
I think the german language ws is the community
with longest experience with the hard rules
like-proofreading twice-the must of
scans.
2009/11/18 Birgitte SB <birgitte_sb(a)yahoo.com>
To clarify
I understand the forking discussion to mean soley forking
the development of the Proofreadpage extension. This would
result in two versions of the extension; each maintained by
separate developers. The various Wikisource subdomains
could each choose which version they wanted to have
installed locally.
Birgitte SB
--- On Wed, 11/18/09, Klaus Graf <klausgraf(a)googlemail.com>
wrote:
From: Klaus Graf <klausgraf(a)googlemail.com>
Subject: Re: [Wikisource-l] Proofreading
To: "discussion list for Wikisource, the
free
library" <wikisource-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 11:43 AM
There are NO
considerations in the
German Wikisource Community to fork
in another way than technically, only regarding
the
Wikimedia
Software.
We will definitively remain part of the
Wikisource
branches.
ThomasV has definitvely denied any cooperation
with
the
German
community. When choosen to administrator he had
promised to
make java
script programming for the German community. In
the
now
running
deadministration process he has said that he is
unwillingly
to do so.
German Wikisource needs a developer with SVN
access -
that's the only
solution IMHO.
Klaus Graf
2009/11/18 Jesse (Pathoschild)
<pathoschild(a)gmail.com>om>:
> On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 10:29 PM, Cecil
<cecilatwp(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
>> So this patch seemed like a great
solution.
It
would not change anything for
>> any of the other Wikisources (unless
they
want
it). But our programmer has
>> no access to SVN and can't upload
the
patch
himself and so we once again
>> stand in front of a block: ThomasV is
not
willing
to accept this patch
>> (which probably means that even if our
programmer
would be able to update
>> the code ThomasV would revert the
patch).
>
> Hello,
>
> I think this patch is a good solution.
Ideally
the
German community
> should have a developer of its own, to help
de-Wikisource in the same
> way ThomasV helps en-Wikisource. Have you
asked
ThomasV if he would
> apply (or at least not revert) the patch?
>
> Communities should avoid forking when
possible,
because this brings
> many problems (such as needing to worry
about
stability, hosting, ads,
> funding, brand recognition, trademarking,
etc)
while
removing many
> advantages (such as benefiting from
Wikimedia
developers, sysadmins,
> fundraisers, interwiki linking, brand
recognition,
etc). Another
> consideration is that if the German
Wikisource
forked,
it could no
> longer call itself "Wikisource"
since
that name is
owned by the
> Wikimedia Foundation. The community would
also
need to
find its own
> developers anyway, when those persons could
have
gained SVN access
> with Wikimedia without all the problems
associated
with forking.
>
> --
> Yours cordially,
> Jesse Plamondon-Willard (Pathoschild)
>
>
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