Luis Villa, from WMF, asks if there is a list that wants to try Discourse: https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2016-January/081244.html
Discourse is a (great) software for discussion, and it could be very useful for giving order to the many mailing lists that we have in the Wikimedia world. This list is active but not too much, so I'm asking you if we want to propose as guinea pigs :-)
Many great open source projects use Discourse, so we are far from being pioneers, and from what I've seen we could really benefit from the many features the software has. Just look it yourselves: discourse.org
Aubrey
I vote for it. I'd be happy to serve as gunea pig :P
On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 6:24 PM, Andrea Zanni zanni.andrea84@gmail.com wrote:
Luis Villa, from WMF, asks if there is a list that wants to try Discourse: https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2016-January/081244.html
Discourse is a (great) software for discussion, and it could be very useful for giving order to the many mailing lists that we have in the Wikimedia world. This list is active but not too much, so I'm asking you if we want to propose as guinea pigs :-)
Many great open source projects use Discourse, so we are far from being pioneers, and from what I've seen we could really benefit from the many features the software has. Just look it yourselves: discourse.org
Aubrey
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I hate Discourse because it doesn't work without JavaScript. Every time I end up on a discourse website I end up crying.
Last time I checked, it also didn't have particularly good export features. I thought I had added to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Internet_forum_software but seems not, maybe was another wiki.
Nemo
On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 3:46 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemowiki@gmail.com wrote:
I hate Discourse because it doesn't work without JavaScript. Every time I end up on a discourse website I end up crying.
Last time I checked, it also didn't have particularly good export features. I thought I had added to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Internet_forum_software but seems not, maybe was another wiki.
A raw dump (including all metadata) export functionality should be a hard requirement for any software put into production in Wikimedia.
If there is consensus, I can propose Wikisource-l for a test. Just tell me.
Aubrey
On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:57 AM, John Mark Vandenberg jayvdb@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 3:46 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemowiki@gmail.com wrote:
I hate Discourse because it doesn't work without JavaScript. Every time I end up on a discourse website I end up crying.
Last time I checked, it also didn't have particularly good export
features.
I thought I had added to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Internet_forum_software but seems not, maybe was another wiki.
A raw dump (including all metadata) export functionality should be a hard requirement for any software put into production in Wikimedia.
-- John Vandenberg
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On 20/01/16 17:58, Andrea Zanni wrote:
If there is consensus, I can propose Wikisource-l for a test. Just tell me.
I'm supportive. Don't know if there's consensus yet. Nemo, have you had any experience using Discourse just via email? Would it work for you that way? (i.e. then doesn't involve any javascript).
I think I read somewhere recently that Mozilla or someone is supporting Discourse in improving the mail interface. is that true, anyone know?
On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:57 AM, John Mark Vandenberg <jayvdb@gmail.com mailto:jayvdb@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 3:46 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) <nemowiki@gmail.com <mailto:nemowiki@gmail.com>> wrote: > I hate Discourse because it doesn't work without JavaScript. Every time I > end up on a discourse website I end up crying. > > Last time I checked, it also didn't have particularly good export features. > I thought I had added to > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Internet_forum_software but > seems not, maybe was another wiki. A raw dump (including all metadata) export functionality should be a hard requirement for any software put into production in Wikimedia.
I absolutely agree. One thing I'd note, too, is that (in my experience of managing a few over the years) Mailman is anything but easy to archive well (at least not without server access). I *think* Discourse has a sensible API, so at least theoretically one needn't leave the archiving up to the sysadmins.
John Mark Vandenberg, 20/01/2016 01:57:
A raw dump (including all metadata) export functionality should be a hard requirement for any software put into production in Wikimedia.
Indeed. We don't have enough information to make any decision or even start considering things yet. I found my research: http://softwarerecs.stackexchange.com/a/25408/13986 it's cc-by-sa, someone please merge the information into https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Internet_forum_software :)
Nemo
I'm amazed -- a non-mediawiki idea for discussion! ;)
I reckon it'd be worth a try. People who don't want to use the web interface can still just post and reply via email. And I like the idea of non-threaded disucssion... it works really well on all the sites I've used it on.
--Sam
On 2016-01-20 00:24, Andrea Zanni wrote:
Luis Villa, from WMF, asks if there is a list that wants to try Discourse:
https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2016-January/081244.html [1]
Discourse is a (great) software for discussion, and it could be very useful for giving order to the many mailing lists that we have in the Wikimedia world. This list is active but not too much, so I'm asking you if we want to propose as guinea pigs :-)
Many great open source projects use Discourse, so we are far from being pioneers, and from what I've seen we could really benefit from the many features the software has. Just look it yourselves: discourse.org
Aubrey
Links:
[1] https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2016-January/081244.html
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On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 3:24 AM, Andrea Zanni zanni.andrea84@gmail.com wrote:
Luis Villa, from WMF, asks if there is a list that wants to try Discourse: https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2016-January/081244.html
Discourse is a (great) software for discussion, and it could be very useful for giving order to the many mailing lists that we have in the Wikimedia world. This list is active but not too much, so I'm asking you if we want to propose as guinea pigs :-)
Many great open source projects use Discourse, so we are far from being pioneers, and from what I've seen we could really benefit from the many features the software has. Just look it yourselves: discourse.org
There is also an evaluation and discussion occurring at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Discourse
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