It is stupid but it is not simple. Nor is it just nine lines of codes, unless you intend to withdraw all the rest. Frankly forking the extension is not my first preference. But I think it is improbable for the lot of you to act with either the cool rationality or the warm graciousness that would be required to heal the very complicated damage done to your relationship. I find ending the relationship entirely to be merely the better of the probable outcomes, not the absolute best. That is what leads me to encourage it.
Birgitte SB
--- On Wed, 11/18/09, Michael Jörgens joergens.mic@googlemail.com wrote:
From: Michael Jörgens joergens.mic@googlemail.com Subject: Re: [Wikisource-l] Proofreading To: "discussion list for Wikisource, the free library" wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 12:22 PM Brigitte,this is simply stupid (No I'm not saying that your a stupid). We are talking abot 9 lines of code, and the communities, which want to stick to no IP's, have this by default, without any change in behaviour und usage. This extension is fully form fit function compatible to the existing system. There is no reason of technically forking, and
I think the german language ws is the community with longest experience with the hard rules like-proofreading twice-the must of scans.
2009/11/18 Birgitte SB birgitte_sb@yahoo.com
To clarify
I understand the forking discussion to mean soley forking the development of the Proofreadpage extension. This would result in two versions of the extension; each maintained by separate developers. The various Wikisource subdomains could each choose which version they wanted to have installed locally.
Birgitte SB
--- On Wed, 11/18/09, Klaus Graf klausgraf@googlemail.com wrote:
From: Klaus Graf klausgraf@googlemail.com
Subject: Re: [Wikisource-l] Proofreading
To: "discussion list for Wikisource, the free
library" wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 11:43 AM
There are NO
considerations in the
German Wikisource Community to fork
in another way than technically, only regarding the
Wikimedia
Software.
We will definitively remain part of the Wikisource
branches.
ThomasV has definitvely denied any cooperation with
the
German
community. When choosen to administrator he had
promised to
make java
script programming for the German community. In the
now
running
deadministration process he has said that he is
unwillingly
to do so.
German Wikisource needs a developer with SVN access -
that's the only
solution IMHO.
Klaus Graf
2009/11/18 Jesse (Pathoschild) pathoschild@gmail.com:
On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 10:29 PM, Cecil cecilatwp@gmail.com
wrote:
So this patch seemed like a great solution.
It
would not change anything for
any of the other Wikisources (unless they
want
it). But our programmer has
no access to SVN and can't upload the
patch
himself and so we once again
stand in front of a block: ThomasV is not
willing
to accept this patch
(which probably means that even if our
programmer
would be able to update
the code ThomasV would revert the patch).
Hello,
I think this patch is a good solution. Ideally
the
German community
should have a developer of its own, to help
de-Wikisource in the same
way ThomasV helps en-Wikisource. Have you asked
ThomasV if he would
apply (or at least not revert) the patch?
Communities should avoid forking when possible,
because this brings
many problems (such as needing to worry about
stability, hosting, ads,
funding, brand recognition, trademarking, etc)
while
removing many
advantages (such as benefiting from Wikimedia
developers, sysadmins,
fundraisers, interwiki linking, brand
recognition,
etc). Another
consideration is that if the German Wikisource
forked,
it could no
longer call itself "Wikisource" since
that name is
owned by the
Wikimedia Foundation. The community would also
need to
find its own
developers anyway, when those persons could have
gained SVN access
with Wikimedia without all the problems
associated
with forking.
--
Yours cordially,
Jesse Plamondon-Willard (Pathoschild)
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