On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Klaus Graf klausgraf@googlemail.com wrote:
2010/10/5 John Vandenberg jayvdb@gmail.com:
However, texts without scans are *harmful* to Wikisource.
I long for the day when the vast majority of our texts are based on scans, however I disagree that texts without scans are, by that fact along [sic: should have been alone], harmful.
I fully agree.
For example, here is one text that I find extremely useful, as Wikimedia Australia is incorporated under this law.
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Associations_Incorporation_Act_1981_%28Victori...
Scans are definitely crown copyright, so it isn't possible to upload scans.
This is a very special case. If a representation of a PD text which one need for proofreading at WS is not free, the WS text cannot be regarded as free. If I could I would speedy delete the text.
There are quite a few specical cases where the text is PD, but the full scan is not. e.g. where illustrations on the pages are still covered by copyright, but the words are not.
I do not think that we need longer tolerance for projects tolerating scan-less texts. In 99,9 percent of all scan-less cases there are NO legal obstacles like in the Australian case.
maybe we need a cross-language discussion (on www.wikisource.org?), where we formally change the rule for all projects to disallow texts without scans, with caveats for the special cases which we agree are required.
e.g. we could decide that existing projects with less than 1,000 pages are not required to use proofread page, but any _new_ language project must use proofread page. I think that would mean that 'cs' and 'th' are the only projects which would need to start using proofread page.
-- John Vandenberg