"Short works" (i.e. a sonnet) are really a hard issue. Just to remember two other issues:
1. IMHO translations are not works, the work being a unique "abstract" item (Iliad) 2. sometimes the author reviewes it work and produces a substantially different "derived" work (ie. Fermo e Lucia vs I Promessi sposi; different revisions of Orlando Furioso). IMHO any of these should be considered different works.
Alex
2017-11-02 9:07 GMT+01:00 billinghurst billinghurstwiki@gmail.com:
Anika,
That is matter long resolved in my opinion with the change in the default search namespaces that the communities made, and similarly with our redefining content namespaces. While main namespace will always take preference to the other nss in results, they show up pretty quickly where you have an intitle: match.
At enWS I would say that we lost more searches to subpages, so with the ability to change your search preferences with subphrase matches, much of that is addressed (though it is not the default search configuration at this point).
The completion suggester https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Extension:CirrusSearch/CompletionSuggester is an algorithm for search suggestions with better typo correction and search relevance. Default (recommended) Corrects up to two typos. Resolves close redirects. Subphrase matching (recommended for longer page titles) Corrects up to two typos. Resolves close redirects. Matches subphrase in titles. Strict mode (advanced) No typo correction. No accent folding. Strict matching. Redirect mode (advanced) No typo correction. Resolves close redirects. Redirect mode with subphrase matching (advanced) No typo correction. Resolves close redirects. Matches subphrase in titles.
Regards, Billinghurst
------ Original Message ------ From: "Anika Born" WikiAnika@wikipedia.de To: "discussion list for Wikisource, the free library" < wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org> Sent: 2/11/2017 6:37:29 PM Subject: Re: [Wikisource-l] wikisource "work" pages or "multiple editions" pages
2017-11-01 16:40 GMT+01:00 Nicolas VIGNERON vigneron.nicolas@gmail.com:
From afar, the Opera: pages on it.ws are very close to the pages with the template {{Éditions}} on fr.ws or the template {{Versions}} on en.ws (and similar system elsewhere).
The main difference is having a separate namespace A second major difference is that the templates on fr.ws and en.ws are very light while the {{Opera}} template took data from Wikidata (but that's an independent problem, it's possible to change the {{Éditions}} or {{Versions}} templates to do exactly the same thing without having a specific namespace).
I'm almost convinced too, but in order to create a new namespace on a project you have to convinced the local community. That's why I'm still playing the Devil's advocate role and want to learn about the inconvenients of this system
A reason why there are no different namespaces for work-, edition-, author-, list- and other portal pages in de.ws is the ws-search. When you are looking for "Goethe" in the (simple) search (as readers may do) on WS, you might get to
80%99s_Geburtstage but not to
https://de.wikisource.org/wiki/Johann_Wolfgang_von_Goethe#Bibliographien with all the interesting stuff, if that page was in another namespace...
So there was the desition to use templates (and categories) for these different kind of pages: https://de.wikisource.org/ wiki/Wikisource:Seiten_zu_Autoren,_Texten,_Themen,_Listen
https://de.wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:Seiten_zu_Autoren,_Texten,_Themen,_Listen I think German Wikisource Community won't give this up and switch to using multiple namespaces (besides Wikisource: and Page:namespace).
Best Anika
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