+ for open library
On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Andrea Zanni zanni.andrea84@gmail.comwrote:
Bibliographical properties on Wikidata are listed here: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Books_task_force
In the last months, we tried to creade a metadata scheme to "cover" the main elements of book classification. It is not MARC21, of course, but I think that pretty much simple Dublin Core is covered. At the beginning, I drafted a mapping between different Wikimedia project templates (Wikipedia book Infobox, Commons' template Book, Wikisource's Index metadata form)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlPNcNlN2oqvdFQyR2F5YmhrMWpXaUF... It is far from perfect, but it gives an idea of which things could be missing.
I'd love too to collaborate with openlibrary, but at the beginning of our IEG project, me and Micru contacted them, in the person of Karen Coyle (User:Kcoyle), a very famous and skilled metadata librarian who is somehow in charge of the project now. She told us that openlibrary is frozen, at the moment, and there is no staff nor funds to get that going. Openlibrary was previously funded but internet Archive.
If someone could build the tool you proposed, Luiz, that would be awesome, but I'm not a technical person and I'm not able to understnd if that is feasible or not. If we have other feedbacks on that, we could propose it as a projects for the next Google Summer of Code: that is a great way to getting technical things done.
Aubrey
On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 5:04 AM, Luiz Augusto lugusto@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Thomas Douillard < thomas.douillard@gmail.com> wrote:
That's why I think we must do a lot more with such datas than just importing them from openlibrary, as they are really important to Mediawiki in general, and that the community as a whole is a powerful drinving force for Bibliographical datas. I'm not against cooperating with openlibrary, but we should seek deep cooperation and integration with them so both projects can benefits from each others community.
+1 on this
openlibrary.org have a limited set of fields.
Moreover, simply importing data at some random time of some random records will not benefit neither openlibrary neither Wikimedia.
You will first need to search if Wikidata don't have the needed information, search again for it in openlibrary, create the content in openlibrary, import the content into Wikidata, make the desired local changes and send back to openlibrary any local relevant changes.
But I had an idea: a MediaWiki User Interface to openlibrary data
openlibrary.org offers access to records in 3 ways:
- read/write of individual records through API;
- read of individual records through RDF and JSON;
- bulk download of the entire dataset
So i'ts possible to:
- Import the bulk data;
- Catch all changes from openlibrary.org in real time;
- Allows that the synced data can be browsable and editable at any time
on MediaWiki/Wikidata instances; 4) Sends back to openlibrary the changes, storing locally the data from custom fields in the MediaWiki instance (allowing further import at openlibrary instance if they creates the corresponding fields in their DB); 5) Sends back to openlibrary all new book records created on MediaWiki instances.
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