I don't understand fully your statement "Right now, I'm going to convert them to DjVu and upload them, *without any text information*.". Don't you feel any need of an excellent OCR layer when proofreading it into wikisource? Do you feel fully satisfied by mediawiki OCR of images? Unluckily, I feel mediawiki OCR very uncomfortable, dealing with not-English books, and I don't know how to get xml data about mapping of words into page image. For sure, if mediawiki 1. could serve the best OCR possible of images with no text layer, after self-recognition of languages of text, 2. would encourage to upload images at best possible quality, 3. could optionally serve hOCR or xml of mapped text layer, there would be no need of thirdy-parts good OCR layer.
Il giorno ven 12 lug 2019 alle ore 06:01 David Starner prosfilaes@gmail.com ha scritto:
On Sat, Jul 6, 2019 at 3:24 PM Alex Brollo alex.brollo@gmail.com wrote:
Nevertheless consider the file structure inside archive.org, who
collects images into zip files and text into _djvu.xml files, so allowing to manage its brilliant viewer.
Djvu format really can be used as a compact images+xml container, but it
seems an obsolete file format, as recent discontinuation of output by archive.org suggests. Pdf is IMHO too complex and can't be considered an open format.
Let's look at one of the files I'm going to upload. https://archive.org/details/Weird_Tales_v02n02_1923-09 was originally uploaded as a zip file of JPEG files. If I could upload it as that, or as the zip of JP2 files, I would. Right now, I'm going to convert them to DjVu and upload them, without any text information. However, there's a lot of cases where we just have PDF files, and I don't want to force some of our more technically unskilled users to have to figure out file conversion, especially where, in the case of PDF files, there's no point; Wikimedia can convert it loselessly to any number of pile of page image formats without much problem.
Pdf is IMHO too complex and can't be considered an open format.
It's got an ISO standard and royalty-free patent licensing. An open format doesn't have to be a simple or good one; it just has to have an agreed-upon standard without licensing problems.
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