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Smaller languages on the Main Page
by Dovi Jacobs 22 Mar '09

22 Mar '09

Hi, I'm changing the subject line because as Thomas wrote there are two separate issues here: How to rank the 10 largest, and how to rank all the rest. As I pointed out in the wikisource.org Scriptorium discussion, I do not understand why Thomas sees the current arrangement as "clutter." Thomas also calls the ranking a "hall of fame" and doesn't see the justification for it. I don't think either point is justified. The current arrangement for the full list of languages is similar to the lists on other project portals such as Wikipedia or Wiktionary (but also formatted a bit more nicely than the others). None of them consider it clutter. In fact, you don't even see it until you scroll down. As far as ranking, why even rank the top 10 or give them a special display? Why not just a simple alphabetical list and that's it for the portal, if a "hall of fame" is to be avoided? I suggest an alternative rationale: The point of ranking is not a "hall of fame" but to give visitors an idea of how developed each language-project is and how much material it contains. People find this sort of thing interesting even for languages they don't speak (and certainly for those they do speak); it serves to give them a picture of what Wikisource really is, in all of its colorful variety. In addition, there is nothing wrong with giving due credit to languages that have flowered through lots of hard work by volunteer contributors (whether we call this a "hall of fame" or not). To my mind these are the justifications for displaying the top ten in a special way, and also the reason for ranking the rest. Why is it important to give an idea of the size/content of a Wikisource for a language spoken by hundreds of millions, but not for a smaller one? Let the portal provide for all. An additional suggestion: The alphabetical list that Thomas created (http://wikisource.org/wiki/Main_Page_alt) is another useful tool, but not the only one. It could be added to the current Main page easily as an additional alternative to the numbered lists, rather than in place of them. I'll create an example of that now on the actual Main Page portal since it doesn't disrupt any of the current content there. Dovi

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Changing the Main Page
by Syagrius 19 Mar '09

19 Mar '09

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djvu text layer
by ThomasV 19 Mar '09

19 Mar '09

I have recently commited changes to ProofreadPage. The most important new feature is the automated extraction of the text layer from a djvu page : when a page is edited for the first time, the textbox will be automatically filled with the ocr text from the djvu. These changes should be activated soon. Thomas

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Fwd: [gutvol-d] need a book scanned?
by John Vandenberg 06 Mar '09

06 Mar '09

Bowerbird ... feel free to flood us with interesting notices like this ;-) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: <Bowerbird(a)aol.com> Date: Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 10:21 AM Subject: [gutvol-d] need a book scanned? To: gutvol-d(a)lists.pglaf.org, Bowerbird(a)aol.com this has been available for a few months now, but hasn't gotten the attention that it deserves... in conjunction with the boston public library, the open library -- or is it the internet archive?, or is it the open content alliance?, i can never tell -- is now offering a "scan on demand" service... if a public-domain book in the boston pubic library hasn't yet been scanned, you can bump its priority up to the top of the list by requesting it be scanned. within "3-5 days", it'll be scanned and placed online, with all the various formats, which includes the o.c.r. what a wonderful present, eh? "check it out" (so to speak): > http://openlibrary.org/bpl -bowerbird _______________________________________________ gutvol-d mailing list gutvol-d(a)lists.pglaf.org http://lists.pglaf.org/listinfo.cgi/gutvol-d

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Extension:Collection enabled on all Wikisources!
by Luiz Augusto 25 Feb '09

25 Feb '09

Now is possible to generate .pdf and .ogg files and to buy a printed copy of Wikisource pages http://wikitech.wikimedia.org/index.php?title=Server_admin_log&diff=18869&o… http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Collection http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Book_tool

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Resolved: (TS-179) Install OCR software Tesseract globally
by Yann Forget 24 Feb '09

24 Feb '09

This information interests Wikisouce. Yann -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [JIRA] Resolved: (TS-179) Install OCR software Tesseract globally Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 04:43:06 +0000 (UTC) From: River Tarnell (JIRA) <jira(a)toolserver.org> To: yann(a)forget-me.net https://jira.toolserver.org/browse/TS-179?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.sy… River Tarnell resolved TS-179. ------------------------------ Resolution: Fixed > Install OCR software Tesseract globally > --------------------------------------- > > Key: TS-179 > URL: https://jira.toolserver.org/browse/TS-179 > Project: Toolserver > Issue Type: Task > Security Level: Public (all users)(Any user can view this issue (default)) > Components: Software installation > Reporter: Yann Forget > Assignee: River Tarnell > > Hello, > Please install OCR software Tesseract globally. I use it for Wikisource. > Thanks, -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. - If you think it was sent incorrectly contact one of the administrators: https://jira.toolserver.org/secure/Administrators.jspa - For more information on JIRA, see: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira -- http://www.non-violence.org/ | Site collaboratif sur la non-violence http://www.forget-me.net/ | Alternatives sur le Net http://fr.wikisource.org/ | Bibliothèque libre http://wikilivres.info | Documents libres

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Wikimania 2009: Call for Participation
by Casey Brown 22 Feb '09

22 Feb '09

Apologies in advanced for the cross-posting. :-) Please circulate this call among Wikimedia communities, researchers and other people that may be interested! This call is also online at http://wikimania2009.wikimedia.org/wiki/Call_for_Participation == Call for Participation == Wikimania is an annual global event devoted to Wikimedia projects around the globe (including Wikipedia, Wikibooks, Wikisource, Wikinews, Wiktionary, Wikiversity, Wikiquote, Wikispecies, and Wikimedia Commons). The conference is a community gathering, giving the editors and users of Wikimedia projects an opportunity to meet each other, exchange ideas, report on research and projects, and collaborate on the future of the projects. The conference is open to the public, and is a chance for educators, researchers, programmers and free culture activists who are interested in the Wikimedia projects to learn more and share ideas about the Wikimedia projects. This year's conference will be held from '''August 26-28''' in Buenos Aires, Argentina at '''San Martín Cultural Center'''. For more information, please visit the official Wikimania 2009 site at http://wikimania2009.wikimedia.org. We are accepting submissions for presentations, workshops, panels, posters, open space discussions, and artistic works related to the Wikimedia projects or free content topics in general. Please carefully follow the submission guidelines below. === Important dates === * '''Submissions will open on:''' March 1 * '''Deadline for submitting workshop, panel, and presentation submissions:''' April 15 * '''Deadline for submitting posters, open space discussions, and artistic works:''' April 30 * '''Notification of acceptance of workshops, panels, presentations:''' May 15 * '''Notification of acceptance of posters, discussions, and artistic works:''' May 31 * '''Conference dates:''' August 26-28 === Themes and tracks === There are two tracks for submission: the '''Casual Track''', for members of wiki communities and interested observers to share their own experiences and thoughts and to present new ideas; and the '''Academic Track''', for research based on the methods of scientific studies exploring the social, content or technical aspects of Wikipedia, the other Wikimedia projects, or other massively collaborative works, as well as open and free content creation and community dynamics more generally. Submissions to either track should address one or more of the following themes: * '''"Wikimedia Communities,"''' including the topics of conflict resolution and community dynamics; reputation and identity; multi-lingualism and languages and cultures. * '''"Free Knowledge,"''' including open access to information; ways to gather and distribute free knowledge, use of the Wikimedia projects in education, journalism, research; ways to improve content quality and usability. * '''"Latin American challenges,"''' centering on efforts and limitations for expanding the reach of Wikimedia projects in Latin America; promotion of projects in Native American languages; specific problems of the Spanish and Portuguese-speaking Wikimedia communities. * '''"Technical infrastructure,"''' including issues related to MediaWiki development and extensions; Wikimedia's technical infrastructure; and new ideas for development. Papers should be of interest to members of the Wikimedia communities, and fit within one of the themes above. === Types of Submissions === We are seeking submissions for: * '''Presentations''' (10–30 minute talks with discussion afterwards) :* This type of submission is appropriate for presenting substantial research or community projects * '''Workshops''' (60–120 minute session with a discussion leader and more audience involvement) :* This type of submission is appropriate for sessions designed to teach a specific subject or explore it in depth * '''Panels''' (group of 2-5 speakers to discuss aspects of a topic with audience questions, 45-90 minute sessions) :* This type of submission is appropriate for discussions on a topic of wide interest among community members, with several participants who may be presenting their work. For less formal discussions of limited interest, consider an open space discussion instead. * '''Open space discussions''' (informal discussion on a specific topic; the discussion leader helps moderate the conversation but the session is open to anyone interested to join in) :* This type of submission is good for a topic that several participants want to discuss or brainstorm about in an informal setting * '''Posters''' (printed visual displays that can stand on their own, with no associated presentation) :* This type of submission is good for presenting research in progress, or smaller community projects * '''Artistic works''' (plays, competitions, comedy, visualizations, displays or other representations of some aspect of the projects) :* This type of submission is good for showing creativity or showcasing beautiful work about the projects. In addition there will be the chance to give lightning talks, which are 5-minute short presentations. Lightning talk sessions will be organized on the Wikimania 2009 wiki shortly before the conference begins, without any need to submit them via the submission system. These talks are best for those who want to quickly present an idea or project without giving a formal presentation. These are informal talks that are open to everyone to participate in. === Submission Guidelines === Wikimania is organized by volunteers, so please help us minimize wasted effort by submitting via the submission system and following these guidelines. All submissions MUST include the following: # '''Event title:''' an English or Spanish title. # '''Abstract:''' a short English or Spanish abstract of your event in 50 to 100 words. The abstract will be used for the public schedule. # '''Themes and track:''' list the track you wish to submit to (Casual or Academic) and the single theme you think your submission fits in best (Wikimedia Communities, Free Knowledge, Latin American challenges, Technical infrastructure). Note that posters and artistic works have their own track in the submission system. # '''Information about the speaker:''' full name, email, and a short biography. # '''Submission file:''' A plain text, PDF or OpenDocument file, in English or Spanish, containing: #* '''A long description of the submission''', in English or Spanish that can be used for reviewing, not to exceed 1000 words. Please give an overview of the areas to be covered or taught. State clearly the relevance to the Wikimedia projects and whether submission concerns a specific wiki project. You can also include links, Include graphics an diagrams if they do not exceed one page. #* '''Event type:''' please state if the event is a presentation, workshop, panel, open space discussion, poster, or artistic work; if a presentation or panel, whether the presentation is expected to be a certain length. #* '''For panel submissions only:''' name of a suggested moderator and short biographies of each suggested panelist #* '''Language:''' list the language you plan to present in. The conference will be bilingual in English and Spanish. #* '''Special requirements:''' list any special requirements, including any equipment. In the "Comments for conference director" field you should tell us whether you will attend to Wikimania (a) surely, (b) probably, (c) only if your submission is accepted, or (d) only if we provide travel and/or accommodation. You can also add yourself to the public list of attendees at the Wikimania 2009 wiki: http://wikimania2009.wikimedia.org/wiki/Attendees Please note that all submissions must be dual licensed under the GNU Free Documentation License version 1.2 or later ''and'' the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 3.0! By submitting for Wikimania 2009 you agree to this condition. ===Submissions=== Once you are sure you have included all of the required information, please send your submission before the respective deadline through our '''submission system''': http://wikimania2009.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submission If you have further questions, email wikimania-program(a)wikimedia.org (in English or Spanish).

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Wikistats seens to be inaccurate for Wikisources
by Luiz Augusto 07 Jan '09

07 Jan '09

Hi Erik, I'm crossposting this message to the wikisource-l, if anyone is interested to give some inputs. The http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikisource/EN/TablesDatabaseWords.htm seens to be inaccurate. Apparently your tool compute only words in the main namespace. It may works for projects like Wikipedia and theirs very long talk pages at the namespace Project: on some subjects (such as deletion requests). But it doens't work for Wikisource for two main reasons: 1) Some subdomains have custom namespaces for short biographies and list of works by author (en, it, pt and others), some have it on the main namespace (fr, de, es and others). This is a minor issue, since the amount of words on those pages is small 2) Some Wikisources (de, fr and en, according to http://wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:ProofreadPage_Statistics ) have large amount of contents in a custom namespace devoted to the ProofreadPage Extension ( http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Proofread_Page ). This content is displayed on main namespace within page transclusion (see http://en.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=35_Sonnets&action=edit for an example). Is possible to include the custom namespaces for all Wikisources on your automated calculation tool? [[:m:User:555]]

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Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikistats seens to be inaccurate for Wikisources
by Syagrius 04 Jan '09

04 Jan '09

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Re: [Wikisource-l] Changing the Wikisource main page
by Syagrius 03 Jan '09

03 Jan '09

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