I realised that in the hectic series of introductions, chats, tutorials
and i18n fixes I forgot to look at what other Wikisource people were
doing at the hackathon other than the "Wikisource table" where
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2015/Program
Tpt and Coren stood out improving wsexport, including PDF and Score
support: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92287 What else? If I forgot
to say hello to someone or missed anything, forgive me and accept my
post-hoc hugs!
Nemo
Hi everyone...
Yep, Tpt and Coren worked on the new wsexport that should be available,
hopefully, for all within a few days...
The new URL can be accessed manually already at this address:
http://tools.wmflabs.org/wsexport/tool/book.php
These are the formats that will be available for export:
ePub3
ePub2
MOBI
TXT
RTF
PDF -A4
PDF -A5
PDF -US Letter
I'm wating to hear from Tpt as if there will be command lines for all the
different formats or if he'll have a small pop up in wich we'll have to
select the desired format.
Furthermore, in Special:IndexPages, we'll be able to see in the facsimile
progress bar, the exact number of problem pages, not proofreaded,
proofreaded and validated... Tpt added this to be in the next merge.
Ernest Boucher, Wikimédia Canada (ca.wikimedia.org)
Wikisource: Projet Québec Canada (jecontribue.ca)
TL;DR:
Wsexport now outputs PDF at https://tools.wmflabs.org/wsexport/tool/book.php + we need you to test ePub 3 output as it will be used by default in a few weeks.
Long version:
Hello everyone,
Marc-Andre Peltier and I have added to wsexport the capacity to export PDF, MOBI, TXT and RTF during the Lyon hackathon. This new feature uses Calibre ebook converter system [1].
We created also a new instance of wsexport on Wikimedia Tool Labs: https://tools.wmflabs.org/wsexport/tool/book.php to test these new formats.
We plan to do two big changes in the next few weeks:
1. Remove wsexport.wmflabs.org and redirect it to tools.wmflabs.org/wsexport . It shouldn't disrupt anything as we will take care of keeping URLs valid.
2. Move the default format from ePub 2 to ePub 3. ePub 3, between other things, allows to use HTML 5 and, so, to add new nice features to eBooks. As ePub 3 should be retrocompatible with ePub 2 this change should not disallow old eReaders to read the ePubs. But, in order to ensure that this statement is true, could you all try to read ePubs 3 created by wsexport on your old reading devices and report bugs that may remain?
Cheers,
Thomas
[1] http://manual.calibre-ebook.com/conversion.html
Hi Siska,
For technical issues we have this Wikisource Phabricator board:
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/board/1117/
I don't know if there is already a ticket open on that issue, I never
experienced that problem.
Could you please provide more details, see if a ticket already exists, or
open one?
@Rachmat Wahidi: if the Wikisource conference finally happens, it would be
very interesting if you could share your expertise with us. I am not
familiar with the arrangement you use, but having a responsible person for
the whole pipeline seems very reasonable.
Cheers,
Micru
On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 2:36 PM, Siska Doviana <
siska.doviana(a)wikimedia.or.id> wrote:
> Hi David,
> Is there any mention of technical issue on wikisource? Like .djvu have
> memory problem and what would *anyone* do in the wikisource community
> to resolve it?
>
> I put Rachmat Wahidi from Wikimedia Indonesia who is responsible for
> taking care of internal media wiki (wikisource) for Wikimedia
> Indonesia digital library, he deals with end to end from scanning to
> proof reading.
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> On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 4:04 PM, David Cuenca Tudela <dacuetu(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Dear all,
> >
> > I have written a short piece on the WMCON and some interesting aspects
> about
> > the organizational future of User Groups.
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ew8cVJhqqenGUAVVaTQqkisyPyd1tSX-zbVfi-U…
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Dear Asaf and Juan Bautista,
Thanks a lot for your comments, I am glad to have some feedback on these
ideas that were discussed during the WMCON. They are not entirely mine,
they just popped up while discussing the topic and I think they might be
interesting to explore them.
TBH, I think they need more discussion in person and see if there are any
takers. It is a big responsibility to start leading projects, specially now
that the (human) interfaces are not that clear.
If the Wikisource conference does happen in the end, it will be the perfect
to advance on these discussions and start experimenting with organizational
structures. Better to experiment at little scale first and learn from it
than to expect global change without testing it first on the local level
first.
Cheers,
Micru
On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 7:30 AM Juan Bautista H. Alegre <
johnny.alegre(a)wikimedia.org.ph> wrote:
> I'm all for this.
>
> Juan Bautista Alegre
> Wikimedia Philippines
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> On Saturday May 30, 2015 at 1:08 PM, Asaf Bartov <abartov(a)wikimedia.org>,
> wrote:
>
> Thank you for sharing this. I could not attend that session, and this
> was an interesting read. I would be happy to advise on some of the
> proposed ideas if there are people interested in leading them.
>
> A.
>
> On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 2:04 AM, David Cuenca Tudela <dacuetu(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Dear all,
>>
>> I have written a short piece on the WMCON and some interesting aspects
>> about the organizational future of User Groups.
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ew8cVJhqqenGUAVVaTQqkisyPyd1tSX-zbVfi-U…
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>> Cheers,
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Hello everyone,
I just wanted to signal the in Italy there'll be a HackDay dedicated to
libraries, in Milan, on June 26th. Hackers will be computer science
students from the local University, and there will be a prize.
I will participate both as Wikimedia and as MLOL (the digital library
system I work for), but I wanted to propose a challenge for the day for the
hackers to tackle.
My idea is fairly simple: improve our (already amazing) EPUB generator. [1]
In Italy we use it a lot (look at the stats [2]) but often our books are
not valid EPUBs, and my idea is that if we manage to generate validate
EPUBs all the time, that would be very useful for everyone.
For example, at MLOL we have a brand-new app that reads EPUB on mobile.
We have more than 3000 Wikisource books directly indexed in MLOL, so the
user just needs a click for importing the EPUB in the app (it will be
generated on the fly, if we do not produce cache files [4]).
An amazing thing is that the app, for example, has a feature for people
whohave low vision or are dyslexic.
In the end, the challenge I want to propose is to solve some issues [4] of
the tool, and make the EPUBs valid.
Do you have other issues? Another proposed challenge? Preferred issues?
If you help me, this is free software development for all Wikisources :-D
Aubrey
[1] http://wsexport.wmflabs.org/tool/book.php
[2] http://wsexport.wmflabs.org/tool/stat.php
[3] https://github.com/wsexport/tool
[4] https://github.com/wsexport/tool/issues/38
One week ago there was the Wikimedia conference in Berlin:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2015
Representing Wikisource there was me, Aubrey, and other users from
different Wikisource language versions. There was a small meeting to
discuss Wikisource and possible future activities. (group picture: [1])
One of the possible activities for this year could be to organize an
international meeting just for wikisourcers. Would be anybody interested in
participating/organizing?
Additionally I contacted WM Austria and they said that they would discuss
providing operational support.
The focus could be in mentoring interested users in how to kickstart their
wikisource and how to use advanced tools. There is interest in growing the
localized versions of wikisource but not enough people capable to mentor
interested users. So there should be workshops to train new users how to
use our basic tools, and how to admin a language instance.
And also AffCom asked us to submit last year report, so here it is:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikisource_Community_User_Group/2014_Report
Hopefully you are excited about all what has done so far and all the great
things that can be done this year!
Cheers,
Micru
[1]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikisource_user_group_meet-up.JPG
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Hello everyone.
I'm happy to tell you that, right now, the Italian Wikisource has been
indexed by MediaLibrary Online, a digital library platform used by over
4000 libraries in Italy:
http://www.medialibrary.it/media/ricerca.aspx?seltip=310&selarg=-1&keywords…
As an employee of MediaLibrary Online, I worked in these months to get all
the metadata and index the texts. A bit of perspective
* All the texts have been either proofread or validated.
They are not all whole books: we indexed the texts directly in namespace 0
(and not in the Index: namespace), in order to provide the user a better
search experience and findability.
This, in our opinion, is very important: we used the MediaWiki API to
retrieve all the data, and some HTML scraping for the rest :-)
* We link directly the EPUB generated by the awesome tool from Tpt, but
also to the page in Wikisource.
* We automatically generated the EPUB covers for every text which didn't
have one.
Ex: http://www.medialibrary.it/media/scheda.aspx?id=850275912
MediaLibraryOnline is a digital platform that provide Italian libraries
with the possibility of lend digital resource, as ebook or audiobooks.
It's not just "a portal on the Internet", but a service used and managed by
single libraries for their uses.
It also has an "Open" collection, freely accessible and downloadable for
everyone (and not only the patrons of the libraries which have access to
MediaLibrary).
I've been hired few months ago to develop such collection, and this is a
major milestone for us (and for me :-).
I'm expecially excited by the fact that now Wikisource ebooks "enter" in
the collection of libraries, and often in their very catalog.
I think it is a very good step forward for our project, and I'm eager to
replicate this project with other Wikisources as well :-)
If needed, I can explain some details.
Cheers,
Aubrey