Wikisource-l October 2013

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Wikisource 10th aniversary proposal : Proofreading contest
by David Cuenca 07 Nov '13

07 Nov '13

Talking with some members of Amical Wikimedia about how to celebrate the 10th aniversary, one of the proposals was to organize a proofreading contest. Basically, we would select some books for the participants to proofread and validate and they would gather points for each page without errors. The person with the most points would win a Kindle donated by Amical Wikimedia. However, we have been thinking that with the help of some members of the Wikisource User Group and other Chapters, then we could escalate it to an international proofreading contest, instead of being just regional. I guess ideally we would need 3 kindles and at least a volunteer from each community to organize it. What do you think of the idea? Would you or any chapter that would like to get involved? Micru

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archive.org switched to ABBYY FineReader 9.0
by Federico Leva (Nemo) 06 Nov '13

06 Nov '13

As you know, many of us use archive.org to OCR their books: <https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Help:DjVu_files#The_Internet_Archive> For a while, they've been stuck with FineReader 8.0. I've just noticed the last OCR processes use 9.0, which has 5 more languages and 2 more dictionaries: http://www.abbyy.com/support/finereader_90_ts/RecognitionLanguages/ http://www.abbyy.com/support/finereader_80_ts/RecognitionLanguages/ I think it's worth re-doing OCR on any archive.org DjVu you're using (and you definitely must do so if it's one of those languages). I'm a (limited) admin there, so feel free to give me on my talk lists of items where to update OCR: https://wikisource.org/wiki/User_talk:Nemo_bis Nemo

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Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource survey
by Arnd Schröter 01 Nov '13

01 Nov '13

I would go for German translation if you tell me how. .. -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht -------- Von: Andrea Zanni <zanni.andrea84(a)gmail.com> Datum: 10.10.2013 14:50 (GMT+01:00) An: "discussion list for Wikisource, the free library" <wikisource-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Betreff: Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource survey Hi all. The survey has been translated already in Italian and French, and is being translated in Hindi. Is somebody else interested in translating it in another language? Do you have any more feedback? Otherwise, we'll launch it as soon as the last translations are completed. Aubrey On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 7:06 PM, Andrea Zanni <zanni.andrea84(a)gmail.com> wrote: I will write you in private. For translating it, the best thing is to directly do that on the software. Is anyone else interested in doing so? As of now, we have French, Hindi and Italian volunteers. Aubrey On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 6:57 PM, Erasmo Barresi <erasmo_barresi(a)live.it> wrote: Aubrey, you might want to change "Wikisource should accept user translations?" to "Should Wikisource accept user translations?". Everything else is good. Congratulations! I volunteer to translate it into Italian. Where can I write the translation? Erasmo _______________________________________________ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l

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New, affordable book scanner
by Lars Aronsson 30 Oct '13

30 Oct '13

Someone should try this new model from Fujitsu, http://www.documentsnap.com/scansnap-sv600-review/ At US$ 623, it sounds like a bargain. That's the price I currently see at Amazon. But even if it were $ 800 or 1200, it would still make sense. What scanning resolution (dots per inch or megapixels) does it produce? Don't let the name fool you. Previous "ScanSnap" products are sheet-fed scanners that require the book to have the spine cut off. This is an over-head scanner looking down at the open, unhurt book. You should even be able to bring this scanner to the library reading room to capture rare books that they don't allow you to bring home. It's not a digital camera array, though, but a linear scanner that sweeps across the page, as the videos show. -- Lars Aronsson (lars(a)aronsson.se) Project Runeberg - free Nordic literature - http://runeberg.org/

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Google Code-In: Standardisation of templates.
by Aarti K. Dwivedi 29 Oct '13

29 Oct '13

Hello everyone, Google Code-in starts on 18 November. It is aimed at pre-university students aged 13-17. You can find more information here[1]<https://www.google-melange.com/gci/document/show/gci_program/google/gci2013…>. It is a contest and tasks are rated separately. Since, this would be the first time most of the contestants would be coding something in FOSS and would have relatively less expertise, the projects are supposed to small. I would be really glad if one of the contestants from Wikimedia, works on a Wikisource related task. This[2]<https://wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:Wikisource_common_template_set> link mentions that there are some templates which are common to a few Wikisources, but have been developed independently. I understand that the reason is dependency on other templates, which follow different development routines. In my opinion, templates that serve the same purpose on various Wikisources can be just one module, instead of several implementations, as is the current situation. Although I am not aware of all the templates that are used on various Wikisources, I would suggest that a common template be used for displaying the author boxes on author pages. The design need not be the same but the backend can be shared. Challenges involved: 1. Deciding an optimal design of the template so that it works properly on all Wikisources/ 2. Making sure the new template does not break any template that was initially dependent on the author template. In my opinion, point 3 would be the most notorious of all the challenges to be handled. It would be great if someone from each Wikisource could tell how other templates are dependent on the "author" template. It might be a bit overwhelming for a newcomer, so I would prefer doing the standardisation of templates for the Wikisources, for which there are least dependencies on the author template I would like feedback from the community on the idea before I propose it on the code-in page[3]. [1] https://www.google-melange.com/gci/document/show/gci_program/google/gci2013… [2] https://wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:Wikisource_common_template_set [3] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Annoying_little_bugs Thank You, Aarti ( Rtdwivedi )

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Re: [Wikisource-l] WIkidata phase 1
by Andrea Zanni 28 Oct '13

28 Oct '13

OK, got it. I added myself as an ambassador, and will notify this in Italian Wikisource asap. Me and Micru used also the Global Message Delivery system in the past, but it's not working really well (people don't read "automatic" messages). This is a great opportunity for the brand new Wikisource Community User Group to coordinate :-D We can notify our local sources, but there is something specific that we can say? Do we need to count the namespace used in our Wikisource? Mind that we will have the results of the Wikisource survey ( https://wikimedia.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID=SV_6taoDVAWcg6vSIZ) in few days, that will help. Aubrey On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Lydia Pintscher < lydia.pintscher(a)wikimedia.de> wrote: > On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Andrea Zanni <zanni.andrea84(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > This is *great* news. > > > > What can we do to help? > > > > At Wikimania, Aude, said that we could help the Wikidata team checking > how > > the interlinks work on Wikisource, > > but I'm not really sure what should we do. > > Most helpful would be notifying all language editions as Thomas has > already done for French. > https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Wikisource has a list of all > languages (click expand on the green box). There are still quite a few > that need an ambassador and that need to be notified :) > Thanks for all your help! > > > Cheers > Lydia > > PS: Please keep me in CC as I am not subscribed to the mailing list. > > -- > Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher > Product Manager for Wikidata > > Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. > Obentrautstr. 72 > 10963 Berlin > www.wikimedia.de > > Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. > > Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg > unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das > Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. >

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WIkidata phase 1
by Thomas Tanon 28 Oct '13

28 Oct '13

Hi everyone! I’m happy to announce that, according to [1], the support of Wikisource site links will be rolled out in Wikidata the January 13th, 2014 if nothing goes wrong. After this date we will be able to add links to Wikisource in Wikidata items and, so, manage interlanguages links between Wikisource directly in Wikidata as it is currently done in Wikipedia and Wikivoyage. The support of access of items content in templates (a.k.a. phase 2) will be rolled out later. There is a page on Wikidata for coordination that contains also a proposal on how we should link Wikisource pages to current items: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Wikisource Feel free to translate this message in your scriptoriums and update the coordination page accordingly, Thomas (User:Tpt) [1] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55502

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Export books which use Proofread extension
by Dmytro Dziuma 22 Oct '13

22 Oct '13

Hi, Export function doesn't work for quite long time now for pages that were proofread with the Proofread Page extension. Is there any chance that it will be fixed soon? I think it is a quite major problem for potential Wikisource users. Best regards, Dmytro Dziuma as DixonD

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Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource Community user group
by jane023＠gmail.com 22 Oct '13

22 Oct '13

Congrats! Sent from my HTC ----- Reply message ----- From: "Andrea Zanni" <zanni.andrea84(a)gmail.com> To: "discussion list for Wikisource, the free library" <wikisource-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource Community user group Date: Tue, Oct 22, 2013 11:13 Hey, congratulations to all of us, :-)me and Micru just pushed the thing a little, but this is a *community* thing. Please remember it :-)Everyone of us can be the "ambassador" of his commuity in the group, and can act as a bridge between the international community and the local one. Of course, everyone is entitled to join us and express his opinion, but it's very important that we all together build a conversation about the future of Wikisource, and what do we want to see happening. Aubrey On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 4:41 AM, Aarti K. Dwivedi <ellydwivedi2093(a)gmail.com> wrote: Hi everyone, Congratulations Aubrey! I am curious about the next steps. In the meantime, I would be happy to translate the Hindi surveys( if there were any :P ). Cheers,Aarti On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 12:54 AM, Thomas Tanon <thomaspt(a)hotmail.fr> wrote: Hi! Congratulations Aubrey for having made this user group a reality. Wikisource Community User Group sounds good for me. I'll be happy help you for the survey results analysis. They interest me very much. Thomas Le 21 oct. 2013 à 11:57, Andrea Zanni <zanni.andrea84(a)gmail.com> a écrit : Hello all, it's my pleasure to give you 2 good news. The first one is that our survey has reached more than 100 responses: we didn't expect this result, and I'm personally very happy about that. This means few things: * that you should check again that the survey has been wel promoted in your language Wikisource. You can use the sitenotice, the village pump, your facebook page, etc. We have just posted the link on the Wikisource Facebook page, and hopefully this will be reposted by the Wikipedia page in the afternoon (I asked Matthew Rioth to boost it a little). * that the more answers we eill havem, the better we will now about the international community. This is important, so we can decide where to go next, together. * that you will have to help us gathering and analyzing the results :-) I don't know 9 of the 11 languages used in the survey, so that can be a problem :-D The second good news is that our Wikisource UG has got accepted, with one condition: it's much better if we change our name. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikisource_User_Group#Name So, what about Wikisource Community User Group?What do you think of it? I really like that, so for me there are no issues. Tell us your opinion. If anybody is against it, we'll tell the AffCom that's OK and we'll proceed with the creation of the UG. Aubrey _______________________________________________ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l _______________________________________________ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l -- Aarti K. Dwivedi _______________________________________________ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l

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Wikisource Community user group
by Andrea Zanni 22 Oct '13

22 Oct '13

Hello all, it's my pleasure to give you 2 good news. The first one is that our survey has reached more than 100 responses: we didn't expect this result, and I'm personally very happy about that. This means few things: * that you should check again that the survey has been wel promoted in your language Wikisource. You can use the sitenotice, the village pump, your facebook page, etc. We have just posted the link on the Wikisource Facebook page, and hopefully this will be reposted by the Wikipedia page in the afternoon (I asked Matthew Rioth to boost it a little). * that the more answers we eill havem, the better we will now about the international community. This is important, so we can decide where to go next, together. * that you will have to help us gathering and analyzing the results :-) I don't know 9 of the 11 languages used in the survey, so that can be a problem :-D The second good news is that our Wikisource UG has got accepted, with one condition: it's much better if we change our name. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikisource_User_Group#Name So, what about *Wikisource Community User Group*? What do you think of it? I really like that, so for me there are no issues. Tell us your opinion. If anybody is against it, we'll tell the AffCom that's OK and we'll proceed with the creation of the UG. Aubrey

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