Hi All,
I am interested in getting the Irish chapter up and running. I have a particular interest in releasing more music into the commons. I would like to apply for funding to provide educational workshops and demonstrations. Have we got enough people who are interested enough to get going?
Kind Regards,
Conor Wao.
Wow that kind of snuck up! The recommended minimum number is 10-20. If we have 10 then I would be very interested in kicking it off. I don't know who from the list of people who expressed interest (or were curious) would not actually participate.
It took a year for 10 names to appear on the page (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Ireland), it may be that if something got off the ground that more would be willing to lend a hand (or simply meet up).
I'll drop a note to all of those who signed the page to drop a line on the mailing list or to post something to the talk page at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Ireland.
RA
On 20 Jul 2010, at 20:22, Conor Wao wrote:
Hi All,
I am interested in getting the Irish chapter up and running. I have a particular interest in releasing more music into the commons. I would like to apply for funding to provide educational workshops and demonstrations. Have we got enough people who are interested enough to get going?
Kind Regards,
Conor Wao. _______________________________________________ WikimediaIE mailing list WikimediaIE@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaie
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On 07/20/2010 12:49 PM, Oliver Anaithnid wrote:
Wow that kind of snuck up! The recommended minimum number is 10-20. If we have 10 then I would be very interested in kicking it off. I don't know who from the list of people who expressed interest (or were curious) would not actually participate.
It took a year for 10 names to appear on the page (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Ireland), it may be that if something got off the ground that more would be willing to lend a hand (or simply meet up).
I'll drop a note to all of those who signed the page to drop a line on the mailing list or to post something to the talk page at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Ireland.
RA
On 20 Jul 2010, at 20:22, Conor Wao wrote:
Hi All,
I am interested in getting the Irish chapter up and running. I have a particular interest in releasing more music into the commons. I would like to apply for funding to provide educational workshops and demonstrations. Have we got enough people who are interested enough to get going?
Kind Regards,
Conor Wao.
I think one step in the right direction is to have a meetup and that people show up to it. I tried to do one in Dublin when I was there last year, but it wound up just being a nice little dinner get-together between myself and a couple of en-Wikipedians.
I think there's probably more members of this list now, however, and that a meetup is probably something that can be formalized. What you need to do, before advertising the meetup is to have a specific time and place in mind--then you can advertise it to a greater community.
I believe that face to face meetings among potential members go a long way toward deciding if and whether you're ready for a chapter or some less formal structure.
- -- Cary Bass Volunteer Coordinator, Wikimedia Foundation
Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate
Hi all,
It's great to hear such enthusiastic responses. I think we'd all agree that collaborating with the UK people on this would be wonderful, so thank you Andrew, Thomas and David for your posts.
We seem to have myself, Oliver, Cary and Aisling as confirmed Irish interested so we still need a few more people. I see some University College Cork people are working on Irish Creative Commons licensing already [ http://creativecommons.org/international/ie/ ]. That might be a good place to contact to get law-savvy people on the team. I can contact them if that sounds appropriate to everyone - ? Suggestions welcome...
Aside from getting more people, we need to consider drafting some founding documents - a mission statement, bylaws, etc. Perhaps we could get access to the UK team's documents as an initial step.
Kind Regards,
Conor Wao.
Conor,
I think getting in touch with the Creative Commons guys in Cork would be a good idea (similarly spirited stuff and all that). I'm based in Cork, if they want to meet someone face-to-face but if you are willing to contact them and hoodwink them into acting as legal aid then I think that would be a great.
As Cary says, a meet-up might be a good step. To keep the ball moving while we have some momentum, what say people to setting a date and place for a meet-up?
A date a couple of weeks from now? That way we can give plenty of notice, advertise well and organise anything that needs to be done in advance. September 4th? That's six weeks from now. Sorry for offering a date that past the end of next month but anything before the end of August is out for me and I would *really* like to attend.
Dublin, I imagine, would be the most practical location (loathe as I am to admit it)? A Saturday? An afternoon, so people can travel up and return home the same day? A city centre or somewhere out on the DART line? It might be easier for folks travelling by car to park if it was out of town. Dún Laoghaire?
I'm thinking a 2:00pm lunch somewhere followed by a chat in the snug of some bar, with a formal-ish meeting (i.e. something with an "agenda") somewhere in between? Thomas Dalton, from Wikimedia UK, would you be good to attend and give us some advice from your experience? Thomas Ralph volunteered last year to act as a media contact for Ireland. (Good idea to have an OTSR person in that role IMHO, so no complaints here.) Could you attend also (are you still on the list?), if only to have key persons present?
Aside from just meeting with people, having lunch and chatting, two items I'd like to throw onto an agenda would be: * A Q&A session from Thomas Ralph on Wikimedia UK, if you're good to attend and willing to answer questions? * Open discussion on a possible Wikimedia Ireland Conor, if you are willing to pursue the Creative Commons people in Cork and investigate the legal/technical aspects of setting up a chapter in Ireland that it would be good. Could you give feedback on that at a meet-up as part of an agenda too?
(Thomas Ralph, how would be best to cover the costs of your travel expense and board? A whip around or do you guys have a budget? Or a future Wikimedia Ireland might be able to pay you back or return the favour in some way?)
How does that sound by people? Oliver
________________________________ From: Conor Wao conorwao@gmail.com To: Wikimedia IE wikimediaie@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Thu, 22 July, 2010 10:29:55 Subject: Re: [Wikimedia IE] Ready To Go?
Hi all,
It's great to hear such enthusiastic responses. I think we'd all agree that collaborating with the UK people on this would be wonderful, so thank you Andrew, Thomas and David for your posts.
We seem to have myself, Oliver, Cary and Aisling as confirmed Irish interested so we still need a few more people. I see some University College Cork people are working on Irish Creative Commons licensing already [ http://creativecommons.org/international/ie/ ]. That might be a good place to contact to get law-savvy people on the team. I can contact them if that sounds appropriate to everyone - ? Suggestions welcome...
Aside from getting more people, we need to consider drafting some founding documents - a mission statement, bylaws, etc. Perhaps we could get access to the UK team's documents as an initial step.
Kind Regards,
Conor Wao.
_______________________________________________ WikimediaIE mailing list WikimediaIE@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaie
Just noticed I address this to Conor, actually it's too all.
Oliver
________________________________ From: Rannpháirtí Anaithnid wiki_ra@yahoo.ie To: Wikimedia IE wikimediaie@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Thu, 22 July, 2010 11:07:48 Subject: Re: [Wikimedia IE] Ready To Go?
Conor,
I think getting in touch with the Creative Commons guys in Cork would be a good idea (similarly spirited stuff and all that). I'm based in Cork, if they want to meet someone face-to-face but if you are willing to contact them and hoodwink them into acting as legal aid then I think that would be a great.
As Cary says, a meet-up might be a good step. To keep the ball moving while we have some momentum, what say people to setting a date and place for a meet-up?
A date a couple of weeks from now? That way we can give plenty of notice, advertise well and organise anything that needs to be done in advance. September 4th? That's six weeks from now. Sorry for offering a date that past the end of next month but anything before the end of August is out for me and I would *really* like to attend.
Dublin, I imagine, would be the most practical location (loathe as I am to admit it)? A Saturday? An afternoon, so people can travel up and return home the same day? A city centre or somewhere out on the DART line? It might be easier for folks travelling by car to park if it was out of town. Dún Laoghaire?
I'm thinking a 2:00pm lunch somewhere followed by a chat in the snug of some bar, with a formal-ish meeting (i.e. something with an "agenda") somewhere in between? Thomas Dalton, from Wikimedia UK, would you be good to attend and give us some advice from your experience? Thomas Ralph volunteered last year to act as a media contact for Ireland. (Good idea to have an OTSR person in that role IMHO, so no complaints here.) Could you attend also (are you still on the list?), if only to have key persons present?
Aside from just meeting with people, having lunch and chatting, two items I'd like to throw onto an agenda would be: * A Q&A session from Thomas Ralph on Wikimedia UK, if you're good to attend and willing to answer questions? * Open discussion on a possible Wikimedia Ireland Conor, if you are willing to pursue the Creative Commons people in Cork and investigate the legal/technical aspects of setting up a chapter in Ireland that it would be good. Could you give feedback on that at a meet-up as part of an agenda too?
(Thomas Ralph, how would be best to cover the costs of your travel expense and board? A whip around or do you guys have a budget? Or a future Wikimedia Ireland might be able to pay you back or return the favour in some way?)
How does that sound by people? Oliver
________________________________ From: Conor Wao conorwao@gmail.com To: Wikimedia IE wikimediaie@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Thu, 22 July, 2010 10:29:55 Subject: Re: [Wikimedia IE] Ready To Go?
Hi all,
It's great to hear such enthusiastic responses. I think we'd all agree that collaborating with the UK people on this would be wonderful, so thank you Andrew, Thomas and David for your posts.
We seem to have myself, Oliver, Cary and Aisling as confirmed Irish interested so we still need a few more people. I see some University College Cork people are working on Irish Creative Commons licensing already [ http://creativecommons.org/international/ie/ ]. That might be a good place to contact to get law-savvy people on the team. I can contact them if that sounds appropriate to everyone - ? Suggestions welcome...
Aside from getting more people, we need to consider drafting some founding documents - a mission statement, bylaws, etc. Perhaps we could get access to the UK team's documents as an initial step.
Kind Regards,
Conor Wao.
_______________________________________________ WikimediaIE mailing list WikimediaIE@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaie
2010/7/22 Rannpháirtí Anaithnid wiki_ra@yahoo.ie:
Dublin, I imagine, would be the most practical location (loathe as I am to admit it)? A Saturday? An afternoon, so people can travel up and return home the same day? A city centre or somewhere out on the DART line? It might be easier for folks travelling by car to park if it was out of town.
As long as it's also easily accessible by long-distance buses, too!
-Jodi (in Galway)
http://jodischneider.com http://www.deri.ie/about/team/member/jodi_schneider/
2010/7/22 Rannpháirtí Anaithnid wiki_ra@yahoo.ie:
As Cary says, a meet-up might be a good step. To keep the ball moving while we have some momentum, what say people to setting a date and place for a meet-up? A date a couple of weeks from now? That way we can give plenty of notice, advertise well and organise anything that needs to be done in advance.
When you have a date, don't forget to advertise on wikien-l and wikimediauk-l as well.
Also, I wonder if a geolocated site notice on en:wp would be useful ... it's done well for WMUK meets.
- d.
On 22 Jul 2010, at 11:24, David Gerard wrote:
2010/7/22 Rannpháirtí Anaithnid wiki_ra@yahoo.ie:
As Cary says, a meet-up might be a good step. To keep the ball moving while we have some momentum, what say people to setting a date and place for a meet-up? A date a couple of weeks from now? That way we can give plenty of notice, advertise well and organise anything that needs to be done in advance.
When you have a date, don't forget to advertise on wikien-l and wikimediauk-l as well.
Also, I wonder if a geolocated site notice on en:wp would be useful ... it's done well for WMUK meets.
Yes, that would be great -- ideally a geolocated notice on all Wikimedia English-language projects (not just Wikipedia).
Perhaps on ga:wp as well?
-Jodi
On 22 July 2010 12:14, Jodi Schneider jschneider@pobox.com wrote:
Perhaps on ga:wp as well?
I would strongly encourage involving people from non-English projects as much as possible. WMUK has tried, unsuccessfully, to do that and I hope you can prove that it can be done and that we're just incompetent!
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On 07/22/2010 03:24 AM, David Gerard wrote:
2010/7/22 Rannpháirtí Anaithnid wiki_ra@yahoo.ie:
As Cary says, a meet-up might be a good step. To keep the ball moving while we have some momentum, what say people to setting a date and place for a meet-up? A date a couple of weeks from now? That way we can give plenty of notice, advertise well and organise anything that needs to be done in advance.
When you have a date, don't forget to advertise on wikien-l and wikimediauk-l as well.
Also, I wonder if a geolocated site notice on en:wp would be useful ... it's done well for WMUK meets.
I can also put up an event page on Facebook, associated with the Wikipedia fan page (over 350,000 fans!). But only once the place and time has been confirmed :)
- -- Cary Bass Volunteer Coordinator, Wikimedia Foundation
Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate
2010/7/22 Rannpháirtí Anaithnid wiki_ra@yahoo.ie:
I'm thinking a 2:00pm lunch somewhere followed by a chat in the snug of some bar, with a formal-ish meeting (i.e. something with an "agenda") somewhere in between?
I think a 2pm lunch is a great idea. That's roughly what the regular London meetups do. I would suggest keeping the whole thing informal for now. You can start having more formal meetings about chapter formation once you have got enough people interested. People might not attend the meetup if it looks too formal - you need to get them interested in the idea of a chapter first and an informal meetup is a great way to do that.
Thomas Dalton, from Wikimedia UK, would you be good to attend and give us some advice from your experience?
I'd love to, but I start a new job on 1st September, so it's really not a good date for me. If you follow my advice and have a formal meeting later (in October or November, say), I'll try and come. I'd cover my own costs - flights to Dublin are ridiculously cheap, even after you add on the "optional" extra charges (like paying with a type of credit card that people actually use...).
I'm also based in Cork, if there are anymore from around this end of the country maybe it would be worthwhile meeting up ourselves down here as I'm sure not everyone would be able to travel to Dublin if that's where the official meetup will be happening?
Aisling
2010/7/22 Rannpháirtí Anaithnid wiki_ra@yahoo.ie
Conor,
I think getting in touch with the Creative Commons guys in Cork would be a good idea (similarly spirited stuff and all that). I'm based in Cork, if they want to meet someone face-to-face but if you are willing to contact them and hoodwink them into acting as legal aid then I think that would be a great.
As Cary says, a meet-up might be a good step. To keep the ball moving while we have some momentum, what say people to setting a date and place for a meet-up?
A date a couple of weeks from now? That way we can give plenty of notice, advertise well and organise anything that needs to be done in advance. September 4th? That's six weeks from now. Sorry for offering a date that past the end of next month but anything before the end of August is out for me and I would *really* like to attend.
Dublin, I imagine, would be the most practical location (loathe as I am to admit it)? A Saturday? An afternoon, so people can travel up and return home the same day? A city centre or somewhere out on the DART line? It might be easier for folks travelling by car to park if it was out of town. Dún Laoghaire?
I'm thinking a 2:00pm lunch somewhere followed by a chat in the snug of some bar, with a formal-ish meeting (i.e. something with an "agenda") somewhere in between? Thomas Dalton, from Wikimedia UK, would you be good to attend and give us some advice from your experience? Thomas Ralph volunteered last year to act as a media contact for Ireland. (Good idea to have an OTSR person in that role IMHO, so no complaints here.) Could you attend also (are you still on the list?), if only to have key persons present?
Aside from just meeting with people, having lunch and chatting, two items I'd like to throw onto an agenda would be:
- A Q&A session from Thomas Ralph on Wikimedia UK, if you're good to
attend and willing to answer questions?
- Open discussion on a possible Wikimedia Ireland
Conor, if you are willing to pursue the Creative Commons people in Cork and investigate the legal/technical aspects of setting up a chapter in Ireland that it would be good. Could you give feedback on that at a meet-up as part of an agenda too?
(Thomas Ralph, how would be best to cover the costs of your travel expense and board? A whip around or do you guys have a budget? Or a future Wikimedia Ireland might be able to pay you back or return the favour in some way?)
How does that sound by people? Oliver
*From:* Conor Wao conorwao@gmail.com *To:* Wikimedia IE wikimediaie@lists.wikimedia.org *Sent:* Thu, 22 July, 2010 10:29:55 *Subject:* Re: [Wikimedia IE] Ready To Go?
Hi all,
It's great to hear such enthusiastic responses. I think we'd all agree that collaborating with the UK people on this would be wonderful, so thank you Andrew, Thomas and David for your posts.
We seem to have myself, Oliver, Cary and Aisling as confirmed Irish interested so we still need a few more people. I see some University College Cork people are working on Irish Creative Commons licensing already [ http://creativecommons.org/international/ie/ ]. That might be a good place to contact to get law-savvy people on the team. I can contact them if that sounds appropriate to everyone - ? Suggestions welcome...
Aside from getting more people, we need to consider drafting some founding documents - a mission statement, bylaws, etc. Perhaps we could get access to the UK team's documents as an initial step.
Kind Regards,
Conor Wao.
WikimediaIE mailing list WikimediaIE@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaie
WikimediaIE mailing list WikimediaIE@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaie
On 22 July 2010 19:49, Aisling Walsh vumpireofkid@gmail.com wrote:
I'm also based in Cork, if there are anymore from around this end of the country maybe it would be worthwhile meeting up ourselves down here as I'm sure not everyone would be able to travel to Dublin if that's where the official meetup will be happening?
Don't think of meetups as being official. Anyone can (and should) organise meetups anywhere they like and anywhere they want.
On 20 July 2010 20:22, Conor Wao conorwao@gmail.com wrote:
I am interested in getting the Irish chapter up and running. I have a particular interest in releasing more music into the commons. I would like to apply for funding to provide educational workshops and demonstrations. Have we got enough people who are interested enough to get going?
UK person who's not much help at all here ;-) Anything people in the UK can do? Anyone else Irish who can join in?
- d.
Hey, David -
I know you guys got a chapter off the ground and from the looks of the number of events popping up on Watchlist banner it looks like you are pretty successful to day.
More Irish interest would be cool. I've just posted a message to all of those who expressed an interest and posted a message at Wikiproject Ireland on en.wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Ireland#Wikimedia_Ir...
Any tips, adivce or experiece you could offer would be great.
Regards, Oliver
On 20 Jul 2010, at 20:52, David Gerard wrote:
On 20 July 2010 20:22, Conor Wao conorwao@gmail.com wrote:
I am interested in getting the Irish chapter up and running. I have a particular interest in releasing more music into the commons. I would like to apply for funding to provide educational workshops and demonstrations. Have we got enough people who are interested enough to get going?
UK person who's not much help at all here ;-) Anything people in the UK can do? Anyone else Irish who can join in?
- d.
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