I propose an Unconference session comprised of: * A lecture- "I want to make a bid, what should it include, and what chances does it have" * A panel - "What is the purpose of wikimania, and what should it include" * Q&A with 2013 Jury memebers
Deror
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Message: 1 Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2012 00:07:52 -0400 From: James Hare messedrocker@gmail.com To: "Wikimania general list (open subscription)" wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] IRC public meeting Message-ID: CAOWP9Q6rev5H22O7=-U4=7GWfMWnKyReBXN3TSc+-WKdGSyRSw@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Wikimania unconference session on Wikimania bid reform, anyone? :D
James Hare
On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 12:00 AM, Deryck Chan deryckchan@gmail.com wrote:
Hence the suggestion that this shall be the last time Wikimania bids happen this way. Next year, not just the way of organising synchronous meetings, but the entire method of choosing a location and organising team should be changed.
IRC isn't the only thing that's become a bit too retro.
Deryck
On Apr 15, 2012 8:39 AM, "Thomas Goldammer" thogol@googlemail.com wrote:
Hi. Which alternative method would that be? Actually, I think two IRC meetings at the edge of the day, even if it's 11 PM or 7 AM local time, aren't too hard to come along with. If absolutely nobody from a certain bidding team can make it to both of the meetings, one can still arrange something else for them, but that is unlikely to happen. Note that when the Wikimania actually takes place, 11 PM or 7 AM will not be unusual times for being needed for organizing things, anyway... But that's my personal opinion and I might be a bit strict with such need for flexibility of the bidding teams. :)
What one could do next time, however, is to have the two meetings at completely different times, one more suitable for the Americas (like 8 PM UTC), one more for the opposite side of the world (Eastern Asia, Australia etc) (like 8 AM UTC). Europe/Africa won't be a problem for both.
Best regards, Th.
2012/4/15 Craig Franklin craig@halo-17.net
I know that I'm not bidding this year, so this may be none of my business, but we encountered a similar problem when we bid all the way back for 2009. ?Might I suggest that a "presentation model" which requires people from many timezones to be present at one time might no longer be a suitable method to judge entries? ?Especially with more bids coming from outside of Europe and North America, it seems to me that whatever timezone you pick will be extremely inconvenient for someone, and it might be a better use of the organisers' time to come up with an alternative method, rather than desperately trying to come up with a time that everyone can be present?
Cheers, Craig Franklin
On 8 April 2012 04:12, B?ria Lima berialima@gmail.com wrote:
The log is already on meta.
You can find it at: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2013/IRC_meeting_07-04-2012
Cheers, _____
B?ria Lima
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On 6 April 2012 06:11, Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org wrote:
Unless there are other bidding teams with a strong preference that seems no problem to me. The default order will be alphabetical, but if there are no objections we will change that on the spot. We would appreciate it if one of your team members is there the whole session - to make sure that you can reply to questions that come up later on.
Thanks for the effort,
Lodewijk
No dia 6 de Abril de 2012 10:22, Bennylin bennylin.idwiki@hotmail.com escreveu:
Dear jury members,
Since the Q&A session will be at 9 p.m. Indonesian time, and a teammate has family she needs to attend to, could we start as the first, or at least second team in the Q&A session?
Regards, benny
From: Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org
To: Wikimania general list (open subscription) wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2012 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] IRC public meeting
Way ahead of you there ;-) Added it on http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2013_bids? : 90-120 minutes. We have 5 bids, so I think we will most likely need that time.
Lodewijk
No dia 5 de Abril de 2012 05:47, Deryck Chan deryckchan@gmail.com escreveu:
How long is it expected to last? On Apr 4, 2012 11:48 PM, "Manuel Schneider" manuel.schneider@wikimedia.ch wrote:
Hi,
my calendar says:
Saturday, April 7th, 14:00 UTC
/Manuel
Am 04.04.2012 17:43, schrieb Lodewijk: > Hi Deryck, > > since nobody objected to the time, I will make the time final. My > apologies > for the delay. > > Lodewijk > > No dia 4 de Abril de 2012 17:42, Deryck Chan > deryckchan@gmail.comescreveu: > >> Would any member of the jury be kind enough to confirm the time >> (and >> expected duration if possible) of the IRC public meeting this >> Saturday?
>> Thanks.
Regards Manuel Schneider
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Message: 2 Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 22:37:14 -0700 From: Philippe Beaudette philippe@wikimedia.org To: "Wikimania general list (open subscription)" wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] IRC public meeting Message-ID: CAPb+kY_QJzi+GQmqH6CBukqSWYnszvBdbPTAAVxqd=C5Nux7Tg@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 9:05 PM, Craig Franklin craig@halo-17.net wrote:
Perhaps we can think outside of the box, and have the bidding teams announce the time that they'll have the presentation, and then it's up to the jury to come along if they can make it ;-)
Wow, really? You want a bid scuttled because a few jurors got together and decided to skip, say, Australia? :-)
That's a lot of power to put in someone's hands....
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