I propose an Unconference session comprised of:
* A lecture- "I want to make a bid, what should it include, and what chances does it
have"
* A panel - "What is the purpose of wikimania, and what should it include"
* Q&A with 2013 Jury memebers
Deror
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Wikimania unconference session on Wikimania bid reform, anyone? :D
James Hare
On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 12:00 AM, Deryck Chan <deryckchan(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hence the suggestion that this shall be the last time
Wikimania bids happen
this way. Next year, not just the way of organising synchronous meetings,
but the entire method of choosing a location and organising team should be
changed.
IRC isn't the only thing that's become a bit too retro.
Deryck
On Apr 15, 2012 8:39 AM, "Thomas Goldammer" <thogol(a)googlemail.com>
wrote:
Hi.
Which alternative method would that be? Actually, I think two IRC
meetings at the edge of the day, even if it's 11 PM or 7 AM local
time, aren't too hard to come along with. If absolutely nobody from a
certain bidding team can make it to both of the meetings, one can
still arrange something else for them, but that is unlikely to happen.
Note that when the Wikimania actually takes place, 11 PM or 7 AM will
not be unusual times for being needed for organizing things, anyway...
But that's my personal opinion and I might be a bit strict with such
need for flexibility of the bidding teams. :)
What one could do next time, however, is to have the two meetings at
completely different times, one more suitable for the Americas (like 8
PM UTC), one more for the opposite side of the world (Eastern Asia,
Australia etc) (like 8 AM UTC). Europe/Africa won't be a problem for
both.
Best regards,
Th.
2012/4/15 Craig Franklin <craig(a)halo-17.net>
I know that I'm not bidding this year, so this may be none of my
business,
but we encountered a similar problem when we bid all the way back for
2009.
?Might I suggest that a "presentation model" which requires people from
many
timezones to be present at one time might no longer be a suitable method
to
judge entries? ?Especially with more bids coming from outside of Europe
and
North America, it seems to me that whatever timezone you pick will be
extremely inconvenient for someone, and it might be a better use of the
organisers' time to come up with an alternative method, rather than
desperately trying to come up with a time that everyone can be present?
Cheers,
Craig Franklin
On 8 April 2012 04:12, B?ria Lima <berialima(a)gmail.com> wrote:
The log is already on meta.
You can find it at:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2013/IRC_meeting_07-04-2012
Cheers,
_____
B?ria Lima
?Imagine um mundo onde ? dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
livre acesso ao somat?rio de todo o conhecimento humano.
Ajude-nos a construir esse sonho.
On 6 April 2012 06:11, Lodewijk <lodewijk(a)effeietsanders.org> wrote:
>
> Unless there are other bidding teams with a strong preference that
> seems
> no problem to me. The default order will be alphabetical, but if there
> are
> no objections we will change that on the spot. We would appreciate it
> if one
> of your team members is there the whole session - to make sure that
> you can
> reply to questions that come up later on.
>
> Thanks for the effort,
>
> Lodewijk
>
> No dia 6 de Abril de 2012 10:22, Bennylin
> <bennylin.idwiki(a)hotmail.com>
> escreveu:
>
>> Dear jury members,
>>
>> Since the Q&A session will be at 9 p.m. Indonesian time, and a
>> teammate
>> has family she needs to attend to, could we start as the first, or at
>> least
>> second team in the Q&A session?
>>
>> ___________________
>>
>> Regards,
>> benny
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Lodewijk <lodewijk(a)effeietsanders.org>
>>
>> To: Wikimania general list (open subscription)
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>> Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2012 2:31 PM
>>
>> Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] IRC public meeting
>>
>> Way ahead of you there ;-) Added it on
>>
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2013_bids? : 90-120 minutes.
>> We
>> have 5 bids, so I think we will most likely need that time.
>>
>> Lodewijk
>>
>> No dia 5 de Abril de 2012 05:47, Deryck Chan <deryckchan(a)gmail.com>
>> escreveu:
>>
>> How long is it expected to last?
>> On Apr 4, 2012 11:48 PM, "Manuel Schneider"
>> <manuel.schneider(a)wikimedia.ch> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> my calendar says:
>>
>> Saturday, April 7th, 14:00 UTC
>>
>> /Manuel
>>
>> Am 04.04.2012 17:43, schrieb Lodewijk:
>> > Hi Deryck,
>> >
>> > since nobody objected to the time, I will make the time final. My
>> > apologies
>> > for the delay.
>> >
>> > Lodewijk
>> >
>> > No dia 4 de Abril de 2012 17:42, Deryck Chan
>> > <deryckchan(a)gmail.com>escreveucreveu:
>> >
>> >> Would any member of the jury be kind enough to confirm the time
>> >> (and
>> >> expected duration if possible) of the IRC public meeting this
>> >> Saturday?
>> >> Thanks.
>> --
>> Regards
>> Manuel Schneider
>>
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On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 9:05 PM, Craig Franklin <craig(a)halo-17.net> wrote:
Perhaps we can think outside of the box, and have the
bidding teams
announce the time that they'll have the presentation, and then it's up to
the jury to come along if they can make it ;-)
Wow, really? You want a bid scuttled because a few jurors got together and
decided to skip, say, Australia? :-)
That's a lot of power to put in someone's hands....
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