Hi all,
I've just finish 3 versions for the Wikidata logo. I can't currently upload images in Wikimedia then the images are available here : - http://dl.dropbox.com/u/177440/wikidata/20120404_wikidata1.png - http://dl.dropbox.com/u/177440/wikidata/20120404_wikidata2.png - http://dl.dropbox.com/u/177440/wikidata/20120404_wikidata3.png
I've also introduced my work in the talk page here: - https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikidata#WikiData_logo_candidate
Regards, -- Ben Bois
Nice , I prefer the nº 2
Hasta luego
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On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 16:21, Benjamin Bois boisbenjamin@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
I've just finish 3 versions for the Wikidata logo. I can't currently upload images in Wikimedia then the images are available here :
- http://dl.dropbox.com/u/177440/wikidata/20120404_wikidata1.png
- http://dl.dropbox.com/u/177440/wikidata/20120404_wikidata2.png
- http://dl.dropbox.com/u/177440/wikidata/20120404_wikidata3.png
I've also introduced my work in the talk page here:
Regards,
Ben Bois
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On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 4:21 PM, Benjamin Bois boisbenjamin@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
I've just finish 3 versions for the Wikidata logo. I can't currently upload images in Wikimedia then the images are available here :
- http://dl.dropbox.com/u/177440/wikidata/20120404_wikidata1.png
- http://dl.dropbox.com/u/177440/wikidata/20120404_wikidata2.png
- http://dl.dropbox.com/u/177440/wikidata/20120404_wikidata3.png
I've also introduced my work in the talk page here:
Regards,
Thanks Ben! They're pretty. Are you ok with providing the source for them?
Cheers Lydia
Thank you Isa and Lydia!
Yes of course, I'm ok to provide the SVG sources. Let me upload on the wiki and I'll do it :)
Cheers, -- Ben Bois
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 6:05 PM, Lydia Pintscher < lydia.pintscher@wikimedia.de> wrote:
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 4:21 PM, Benjamin Bois boisbenjamin@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
I've just finish 3 versions for the Wikidata logo. I can't currently upload images in Wikimedia then the images are
available
here :
- http://dl.dropbox.com/u/177440/wikidata/20120404_wikidata1.png
- http://dl.dropbox.com/u/177440/wikidata/20120404_wikidata2.png
- http://dl.dropbox.com/u/177440/wikidata/20120404_wikidata3.png
I've also introduced my work in the talk page here:
Regards,
Thanks Ben! They're pretty. Are you ok with providing the source for them?
Cheers Lydia
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Here is my test: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikidata_logo_idea.svg .
I am not a graphical designer, but a hobbyist coder; I found that a feature in Inkscape could be useful and I came up with this.
I've used the colors in other Wikimedia-related logos, the font face is DejaVu Sans because I do not have Gill Sans (furthermore, it's not free).
Joan Creus.
Hi Joan, Not bad, maybe a bit too much "Sunny" logo (flag) in my POV ;) -- Ben Bois
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 6:17 PM, Joan Creus joan.creus.c@gmail.com wrote:
Here is my test: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikidata_logo_idea.svg .
I am not a graphical designer, but a hobbyist coder; I found that a feature in Inkscape could be useful and I came up with this.
I've used the colors in other Wikimedia-related logos, the font face is DejaVu Sans because I do not have Gill Sans (furthermore, it's not free).
Joan Creus.
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I'll try with not-so-many vertices.
Joan Creus.
2012/4/4 Benjamin Bois boisbenjamin@gmail.com
Hi Joan, Not bad, maybe a bit too much "Sunny" logo (flag) in my POV ;) -- Ben Bois
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 6:17 PM, Joan Creus joan.creus.c@gmail.com wrote:
Here is my test: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikidata_logo_idea.svg .
I am not a graphical designer, but a hobbyist coder; I found that a feature in Inkscape could be useful and I came up with this.
I've used the colors in other Wikimedia-related logos, the font face is DejaVu Sans because I do not have Gill Sans (furthermore, it's not free).
Joan Creus.
Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
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Here's a modified version, with not-so-many vertices: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikidata_logo_idea2.svg .
Joan Creus.
2012/4/4 Benjamin Bois boisbenjamin@gmail.com
Hi Joan, Not bad, maybe a bit too much "Sunny" logo (flag) in my POV ;) -- Ben Bois
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 6:17 PM, Joan Creus joan.creus.c@gmail.com wrote:
Here is my test: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikidata_logo_idea.svg .
I am not a graphical designer, but a hobbyist coder; I found that a feature in Inkscape could be useful and I came up with this.
I've used the colors in other Wikimedia-related logos, the font face is DejaVu Sans because I do not have Gill Sans (furthermore, it's not free).
Joan Creus.
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Here's a modified version, with not-so-many vertices: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikidata_logo_idea2.svg .
Joan Creus.
2012/4/4 Benjamin Bois boisbenjamin@gmail.com
Hi Joan, Not bad, maybe a bit too much "Sunny" logo (flag) in my POV ;) -- Ben Bois
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 6:17 PM, Joan Creus joan.creus.c@gmail.com wrote:
Here is my test: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikidata_logo_idea.svg .
I am not a graphical designer, but a hobbyist coder; I found that a feature in Inkscape could be useful and I came up with this.
I've used the colors in other Wikimedia-related logos, the font face is DejaVu Sans because I do not have Gill Sans (furthermore, it's not free).
Joan Creus.
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Hey.. better, but I'm still thinking to sunny flag with your design. -- Ben
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 7:06 PM, Joan Creus joan.creus.c@gmail.com wrote:
Here's a modified version, with not-so-many vertices: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikidata_logo_idea2.svg .
Joan Creus.
2012/4/4 Benjamin Bois boisbenjamin@gmail.com
Hi Joan, Not bad, maybe a bit too much "Sunny" logo (flag) in my POV ;) -- Ben Bois
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 6:17 PM, Joan Creus joan.creus.c@gmail.comwrote:
Here is my test: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikidata_logo_idea.svg .
I am not a graphical designer, but a hobbyist coder; I found that a feature in Inkscape could be useful and I came up with this.
I've used the colors in other Wikimedia-related logos, the font face is DejaVu Sans because I do not have Gill Sans (furthermore, it's not free).
Joan Creus.
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On 04/04/12 19:08, Benjamin Bois wrote:
Hey.. better, but I'm still thinking to sunny flag with your design.
Ben
What about modifying the blue items to make it looks as "moving" to the center? (ie. the data that comes to be aggregated at WikiData). Currently, they could as well be drops of water, or anything else.
I think that providing a symbolic meaning is important.
This is my proposal: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikidata_logo_proposal.svg, which is closely related to Wikimedia Commons' logo.
In Commons the red dot (the project) is receiving media files from the different entities surrounding it. I think that we should maintain somehow the same concept: the red dot (the project, the repository) provides data to the circumference (which I understand is a metaphor of "everyone").
Hope you like it.
Regards,
The current meaning the logo had was a central element which "fed" all the Wikipedias. Regarding "moving" to the center, how would you do it? (I'll see if I can do it, do not expect wonders!).
Joan Creus.
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On 04/04/12 19:08, Benjamin Bois wrote:
Hey.. better, but I'm still thinking to sunny flag with your design.
Ben
What about modifying the blue items to make it looks as "moving" to the center? (ie. the data that comes to be aggregated at WikiData). Currently, they could as well be drops of water, or anything else.
I think that providing a symbolic meaning is important.
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Hey folks :)
You're all awesome for creating pretty logos! Love them. Can you all add them to http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikidata#WikiData_logo_candidate please so we don't lose any of them?
Cheers Lydia
Thanks for all the input!
One thing I would like to keep in mind is that Wikidata is meant to be easy and welcoming for a wide audience. As a computer scientist, I understand and appreciate imagery like a steel database cylinder, but I think it could look a bit technocratic to "normal" people. I don't have concrete proposals, but I would find it amazing if the logo could have a human touch to it.
One idea maybe: many people will know the Unilever logo [1] (a U made of a variety of objects). There are various logos in similar style (see also the "earth" category at logotrends 2011 [2]). Maybe something like this would be suitable for us, to show that Wikidata is about a wide range of topics and people. But making such a logo is a bit of work.
Cheers,
Markus
[1] https://www.google.com/search?q=unilever+logo&um=1&tbm=isch [2] http://www.logolounge.com/article.asp?
On 05/04/12 08:39, Lydia Pintscher wrote:
Hey folks :)
You're all awesome for creating pretty logos! Love them. Can you all add them to http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikidata#WikiData_logo_candidate please so we don't lose any of them?
Cheers Lydia
Hi Markus, thank you for helping us (designers) to find the way :) To help us a bit more, can you (and the other members) give us elements to be integrated to the logo in reference to the WikiData philosophy?
Cheers, -- Ben
On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Markus Krötzsch < markus@semantic-mediawiki.org> wrote:
Thanks for all the input!
One thing I would like to keep in mind is that Wikidata is meant to be easy and welcoming for a wide audience. As a computer scientist, I understand and appreciate imagery like a steel database cylinder, but I think it could look a bit technocratic to "normal" people. I don't have concrete proposals, but I would find it amazing if the logo could have a human touch to it.
One idea maybe: many people will know the Unilever logo [1] (a U made of a variety of objects). There are various logos in similar style (see also the "earth" category at logotrends 2011 [2]). Maybe something like this would be suitable for us, to show that Wikidata is about a wide range of topics and people. But making such a logo is a bit of work.
Cheers,
Markus
[1] https://www.google.com/search?**q=unilever+logo&um=1&tbm=ischhttps://www.google.com/search?q=unilever+logo&um=1&tbm=isch [2] http://www.logolounge.com/**article.asphttp://www.logolounge.com/article.asp ?
On 05/04/12 08:39, Lydia Pintscher wrote:
Hey folks :)
You're all awesome for creating pretty logos! Love them. Can you all add them to http://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Talk:Wikidata#WikiData_**logo_candidatehttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikidata#WikiData_logo_candidate please so we don't lose any of them?
Cheers Lydia
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On 06/04/12 12:35, Benjamin Bois wrote:
Hi Markus, thank you for helping us (designers) to find the way :) To help us a bit more, can you (and the other members) give us elements to be integrated to the logo in reference to the WikiData philosophy?
Well, just making suggestions ... in the end (like with all Wikimedia projects), the community will decide about the logo. The Wikidata developer team might only decide about the logo for the software (just like MediaWiki has an own logo that is different from Wikipedia's logo). So in fact we will need two logos :-)
So what should go into a Wikidata logo? I think: everything that people collect data about: people, animals, cars, chemistry, music, math, flowers, computers, ... Like the puzzle globe emphasizes the textual nature of Wikipedia (in many languages), a Wikidata logo should emphasize that the project is about the "things" themselves. I don't know how to make this visually appealing and clearly recognizable at the scale of a normal wiki logo, but I think it could be done.
Good luck :-)
Markus
On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Markus Krötzsch <markus@semantic-mediawiki.org mailto:markus@semantic-mediawiki.org> wrote:
Thanks for all the input! One thing I would like to keep in mind is that Wikidata is meant to be easy and welcoming for a wide audience. As a computer scientist, I understand and appreciate imagery like a steel database cylinder, but I think it could look a bit technocratic to "normal" people. I don't have concrete proposals, but I would find it amazing if the logo could have a human touch to it. One idea maybe: many people will know the Unilever logo [1] (a U made of a variety of objects). There are various logos in similar style (see also the "earth" category at logotrends 2011 [2]). Maybe something like this would be suitable for us, to show that Wikidata is about a wide range of topics and people. But making such a logo is a bit of work. Cheers, Markus [1] https://www.google.com/search? q=unilever+logo&um=1&tbm=isch <https://www.google.com/search?q=unilever+logo&um=1&tbm=isch> [2] http://www.logolounge.com/ article.asp <http://www.logolounge.com/article.asp>? On 05/04/12 08:39, Lydia Pintscher wrote: Hey folks :) You're all awesome for creating pretty logos! Love them. Can you all add them to http://meta.wikimedia.org/ wiki/Talk:Wikidata#WikiData_ logo_candidate <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikidata#WikiData_logo_candidate> please so we don't lose any of them? Cheers Lydia ______________________________ _________________ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/ mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l>
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Hello Markus,
I want to submit or contribute a logo for WiKiData project. Please find the attachment with this mail.
Or click this URL http://www.sociableblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/wikidata-logo.png(400...)
Hope you guys like this.
Thanks, Ariful Anam Twitter: http://twitter.com/#!/arifulanam
On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 5:26 PM, Markus Krötzsch < markus@semantic-mediawiki.org> wrote:
On 06/04/12 12:35, Benjamin Bois wrote:
Hi Markus, thank you for helping us (designers) to find the way :) To help us a bit more, can you (and the other members) give us elements to be integrated to the logo in reference to the WikiData philosophy?
Well, just making suggestions ... in the end (like with all Wikimedia projects), the community will decide about the logo. The Wikidata developer team might only decide about the logo for the software (just like MediaWiki has an own logo that is different from Wikipedia's logo). So in fact we will need two logos :-)
So what should go into a Wikidata logo? I think: everything that people collect data about: people, animals, cars, chemistry, music, math, flowers, computers, ... Like the puzzle globe emphasizes the textual nature of Wikipedia (in many languages), a Wikidata logo should emphasize that the project is about the "things" themselves. I don't know how to make this visually appealing and clearly recognizable at the scale of a normal wiki logo, but I think it could be done.
Good luck :-)
Markus
On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Markus Krötzsch <markus@semantic-mediawiki.org <mailto:markus@semantic-**mediawiki.orgmarkus@semantic-mediawiki.org
wrote:
Thanks for all the input!
One thing I would like to keep in mind is that Wikidata is meant to be easy and welcoming for a wide audience. As a computer scientist, I understand and appreciate imagery like a steel database cylinder, but I think it could look a bit technocratic to "normal" people. I don't have concrete proposals, but I would find it amazing if the logo could have a human touch to it.
One idea maybe: many people will know the Unilever logo [1] (a U made of a variety of objects). There are various logos in similar style (see also the "earth" category at logotrends 2011 [2]). Maybe something like this would be suitable for us, to show that Wikidata is about a wide range of topics and people. But making such a logo is a bit of work.
Cheers,
Markus
[1] https://www.google.com/search? q=unilever+logo&um=1&tbm=isch <https://www.google.com/**search?q=unilever+logo&um=1&**tbm=ischhttps://www.google.com/search?q=unilever+logo&um=1&tbm=isch
[2] http://www.logolounge.com/ article.asp <http://www.logolounge.com/**article.asphttp://www.logolounge.com/article.asp
?
On 05/04/12 08:39, Lydia Pintscher wrote:
Hey folks :) You're all awesome for creating pretty logos! Love them. Can you all add them to http://meta.wikimedia.org/ wiki/Talk:Wikidata#WikiData_ logo_candidate <http://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Talk:Wikidata#WikiData_**logo_candidatehttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikidata#WikiData_logo_candidate
please so we don't lose any of them? Cheers Lydia
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Hello Markus,
I want to submit or contribute a logo for WiKiData project. Please find the logo on this below URL..
Click this URL http://www.sociableblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/wikidata-logo.png(400...)
Hope you guys like this.
Thanks, Ariful Anam Twitter: http://twitter.com/#!/arifulanam
On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 5:26 PM, Markus Krötzsch < markus@semantic-mediawiki.org> wrote:
On 06/04/12 12:35, Benjamin Bois wrote:
Hi Markus, thank you for helping us (designers) to find the way :) To help us a bit more, can you (and the other members) give us elements to be integrated to the logo in reference to the WikiData philosophy?
Well, just making suggestions ... in the end (like with all Wikimedia projects), the community will decide about the logo. The Wikidata developer team might only decide about the logo for the software (just like MediaWiki has an own logo that is different from Wikipedia's logo). So in fact we will need two logos :-)
So what should go into a Wikidata logo? I think: everything that people collect data about: people, animals, cars, chemistry, music, math, flowers, computers, ... Like the puzzle globe emphasizes the textual nature of Wikipedia (in many languages), a Wikidata logo should emphasize that the project is about the "things" themselves. I don't know how to make this visually appealing and clearly recognizable at the scale of a normal wiki logo, but I think it could be done.
Good luck :-)
Markus
On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Markus Krötzsch <markus@semantic-mediawiki.org <mailto:markus@semantic-**mediawiki.orgmarkus@semantic-mediawiki.org
wrote:
Thanks for all the input!
One thing I would like to keep in mind is that Wikidata is meant to be easy and welcoming for a wide audience. As a computer scientist, I understand and appreciate imagery like a steel database cylinder, but I think it could look a bit technocratic to "normal" people. I don't have concrete proposals, but I would find it amazing if the logo could have a human touch to it.
One idea maybe: many people will know the Unilever logo [1] (a U made of a variety of objects). There are various logos in similar style (see also the "earth" category at logotrends 2011 [2]). Maybe something like this would be suitable for us, to show that Wikidata is about a wide range of topics and people. But making such a logo is a bit of work.
Cheers,
Markus
[1] https://www.google.com/search? q=unilever+logo&um=1&tbm=isch <https://www.google.com/**search?q=unilever+logo&um=1&**tbm=ischhttps://www.google.com/search?q=unilever+logo&um=1&tbm=isch
[2] http://www.logolounge.com/ article.asp <http://www.logolounge.com/**article.asphttp://www.logolounge.com/article.asp
?
On 05/04/12 08:39, Lydia Pintscher wrote:
Hey folks :) You're all awesome for creating pretty logos! Love them. Can you all add them to http://meta.wikimedia.org/ wiki/Talk:Wikidata#WikiData_ logo_candidate <http://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Talk:Wikidata#WikiData_**logo_candidatehttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikidata#WikiData_logo_candidate
please so we don't lose any of them? Cheers Lydia
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On 07/04/12 09:42, Rebecca Jordan wrote:
Hello Markus,
I want to submit or contribute a logo for WiKiData project. Please find the logo on this below URL..
Click this URL http://www.sociableblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/wikidata-logo.png (400px)
Hope you guys like this.
Thanks; I quite like the text regarding font and colour. Lydia already suggested to add all logo proposals here:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikidata#WikiData_logo_candidate
but maybe we should even set up a dedicated page. We should make sure that no logo is lost in this thread.
Markus
Thanks, Ariful Anam Twitter: http://twitter.com/#!/arifulanam http://twitter.com/#%21/arifulanam
On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 5:26 PM, Markus Krötzsch <markus@semantic-mediawiki.org mailto:markus@semantic-mediawiki.org> wrote:
On 06/04/12 12:35, Benjamin Bois wrote: Hi Markus, thank you for helping us (designers) to find the way :) To help us a bit more, can you (and the other members) give us elements to be integrated to the logo in reference to the WikiData philosophy? Well, just making suggestions ... in the end (like with all Wikimedia projects), the community will decide about the logo. The Wikidata developer team might only decide about the logo for the software (just like MediaWiki has an own logo that is different from Wikipedia's logo). So in fact we will need two logos :-) So what should go into a Wikidata logo? I think: everything that people collect data about: people, animals, cars, chemistry, music, math, flowers, computers, ... Like the puzzle globe emphasizes the textual nature of Wikipedia (in many languages), a Wikidata logo should emphasize that the project is about the "things" themselves. I don't know how to make this visually appealing and clearly recognizable at the scale of a normal wiki logo, but I think it could be done. Good luck :-) Markus On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Markus Krötzsch <markus@semantic-mediawiki.org <mailto:markus@semantic-mediawiki.org> <mailto:markus@semantic- mediawiki.org <mailto:markus@semantic-mediawiki.org>>> wrote: Thanks for all the input! One thing I would like to keep in mind is that Wikidata is meant to be easy and welcoming for a wide audience. As a computer scientist, I understand and appreciate imagery like a steel database cylinder, but I think it could look a bit technocratic to "normal" people. I don't have concrete proposals, but I would find it amazing if the logo could have a human touch to it. One idea maybe: many people will know the Unilever logo [1] (a U made of a variety of objects). There are various logos in similar style (see also the "earth" category at logotrends 2011 [2]). Maybe something like this would be suitable for us, to show that Wikidata is about a wide range of topics and people. But making such a logo is a bit of work. Cheers, Markus [1] https://www.google.com/search? q=unilever+logo&um=1&tbm=isch <https://www.google.com/ search?q=unilever+logo&um=1& tbm=isch <https://www.google.com/search?q=unilever+logo&um=1&tbm=isch>> [2] http://www.logolounge.com/ article.asp <http://www.logolounge.com/ article.asp <http://www.logolounge.com/article.asp>>? On 05/04/12 08:39, Lydia Pintscher wrote: Hey folks :) You're all awesome for creating pretty logos! Love them. Can you all add them to http://meta.wikimedia.org/ wiki/Talk:Wikidata#WikiData_ logo_candidate <http://meta.wikimedia.org/ wiki/Talk:Wikidata#WikiData_ logo_candidate <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikidata#WikiData_logo_candidate>> please so we don't lose any of them? Cheers Lydia ______________________________ _________________ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org> <mailto:Wikidata-l@lists. wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/ mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l <https://lists.wikimedia.org/ mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l>> ______________________________ _________________ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/ mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l> ______________________________ _________________ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/ mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l>-- Regards,
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On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Rebecca Jordan sociable.blog@gmail.com wrote:
Hello Markus,
I want to submit or contribute a logo for WiKiData project. Please find the logo on this below URL..
Click this URL http://www.sociableblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/wikidata-logo.png (400px)
Hope you guys like this.
Nice! I've added it to http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikidata#WikiData_logo_candidate now. Do you also have a source (like an svg file) for the image?
Cheers Lydia
Hi all,
I've just finished the new logo from the Markus idea: - http://dl.dropbox.com/u/177440/wikidata/20120407_wikidata10.png Now, I stop and wait for comments and others critics.
Cheers, -- Ben
On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Markus Krötzsch < markus@semantic-mediawiki.org> wrote:
On 06/04/12 12:35, Benjamin Bois wrote:
Hi Markus, thank you for helping us (designers) to find the way :) To help us a bit more, can you (and the other members) give us elements to be integrated to the logo in reference to the WikiData philosophy?
Well, just making suggestions ... in the end (like with all Wikimedia projects), the community will decide about the logo. The Wikidata developer team might only decide about the logo for the software (just like MediaWiki has an own logo that is different from Wikipedia's logo). So in fact we will need two logos :-)
So what should go into a Wikidata logo? I think: everything that people collect data about: people, animals, cars, chemistry, music, math, flowers, computers, ... Like the puzzle globe emphasizes the textual nature of Wikipedia (in many languages), a Wikidata logo should emphasize that the project is about the "things" themselves. I don't know how to make this visually appealing and clearly recognizable at the scale of a normal wiki logo, but I think it could be done.
Good luck :-)
Markus
On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Markus Krötzsch <markus@semantic-mediawiki.org <mailto:markus@semantic-**mediawiki.orgmarkus@semantic-mediawiki.org
wrote:
Thanks for all the input!
One thing I would like to keep in mind is that Wikidata is meant to be easy and welcoming for a wide audience. As a computer scientist, I understand and appreciate imagery like a steel database cylinder, but I think it could look a bit technocratic to "normal" people. I don't have concrete proposals, but I would find it amazing if the logo could have a human touch to it.
One idea maybe: many people will know the Unilever logo [1] (a U made of a variety of objects). There are various logos in similar style (see also the "earth" category at logotrends 2011 [2]). Maybe something like this would be suitable for us, to show that Wikidata is about a wide range of topics and people. But making such a logo is a bit of work.
Cheers,
Markus
[1] https://www.google.com/search? q=unilever+logo&um=1&tbm=isch <https://www.google.com/**search?q=unilever+logo&um=1&**tbm=ischhttps://www.google.com/search?q=unilever+logo&um=1&tbm=isch
[2] http://www.logolounge.com/ article.asp <http://www.logolounge.com/**article.asphttp://www.logolounge.com/article.asp
?
On 05/04/12 08:39, Lydia Pintscher wrote:
Hey folks :) You're all awesome for creating pretty logos! Love them. Can you all add them to http://meta.wikimedia.org/ wiki/Talk:Wikidata#WikiData_ logo_candidate <http://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Talk:Wikidata#WikiData_**logo_candidatehttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikidata#WikiData_logo_candidate
please so we don't lose any of them? Cheers Lydia
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2012/4/8 Benjamin Bois boisbenjamin@gmail.com
Hi all,
I've just finished the new logo from the Markus idea:
Now, I stop and wait for comments and others critics.
Please, upload all your logos to http://commons.wikimedia.org (free license). If you use DropBox or any other hosting, your logos will be deleted and lost in some weeks, months or years. And this logo discussion has an important historical value.
Hi all,
This is very nice. What I'm missing here are two things: 1. some level of abstraction (I know its a bit abstract to say that :-), 2. the structure, or batter said - the links...
Carmel Kent.
On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 11:04 PM, Benjamin Bois boisbenjamin@gmail.comwrote:
Hi all,
I've just finished the new logo from the Markus idea:
Now, I stop and wait for comments and others critics.
Cheers,
Ben
On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Markus Krötzsch < markus@semantic-mediawiki.org> wrote:
On 06/04/12 12:35, Benjamin Bois wrote:
Hi Markus, thank you for helping us (designers) to find the way :) To help us a bit more, can you (and the other members) give us elements to be integrated to the logo in reference to the WikiData philosophy?
Well, just making suggestions ... in the end (like with all Wikimedia projects), the community will decide about the logo. The Wikidata developer team might only decide about the logo for the software (just like MediaWiki has an own logo that is different from Wikipedia's logo). So in fact we will need two logos :-)
So what should go into a Wikidata logo? I think: everything that people collect data about: people, animals, cars, chemistry, music, math, flowers, computers, ... Like the puzzle globe emphasizes the textual nature of Wikipedia (in many languages), a Wikidata logo should emphasize that the project is about the "things" themselves. I don't know how to make this visually appealing and clearly recognizable at the scale of a normal wiki logo, but I think it could be done.
Good luck :-)
Markus
On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Markus Krötzsch <markus@semantic-mediawiki.org <mailto:markus@semantic-**mediawiki.orgmarkus@semantic-mediawiki.org
wrote:
Thanks for all the input!
One thing I would like to keep in mind is that Wikidata is meant to be easy and welcoming for a wide audience. As a computer scientist, I understand and appreciate imagery like a steel database cylinder, but I think it could look a bit technocratic to "normal" people. I don't have concrete proposals, but I would find it amazing if the logo could have a human touch to it.
One idea maybe: many people will know the Unilever logo [1] (a U made of a variety of objects). There are various logos in similar style (see also the "earth" category at logotrends 2011 [2]). Maybe something like this would be suitable for us, to show that Wikidata is about a wide range of topics and people. But making such a logo is a bit of work.
Cheers,
Markus
[1] https://www.google.com/search? q=unilever+logo&um=1&tbm=isch <https://www.google.com/**search?q=unilever+logo&um=1&**tbm=ischhttps://www.google.com/search?q=unilever+logo&um=1&tbm=isch
[2] http://www.logolounge.com/ article.asp <http://www.logolounge.com/**article.asphttp://www.logolounge.com/article.asp
?
On 05/04/12 08:39, Lydia Pintscher wrote:
Hey folks :) You're all awesome for creating pretty logos! Love them. Can you all add them to http://meta.wikimedia.org/ wiki/Talk:Wikidata#WikiData_ logo_candidate <http://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Talk:Wikidata#WikiData_**logo_candidatehttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikidata#WikiData_logo_candidate
please so we don't lose any of them? Cheers Lydia
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Hi all;
There is a category for the logo proposals. I invite you to add your logos there http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikidata_logo_proposals
Just sign up in Wikimedia Commons, follow the Special:Upload form and add [[Category:Wikidata logo proposals]] to the page description.
Regards, emijrp
On 08/04/12 21:04, Benjamin Bois wrote:
Hi all,
I've just finished the new logo from the Markus idea:
Now, I stop and wait for comments and others critics.
This is very nice. I do like the overall appearance of this assembled logo. Also, the whole work clearly says "I am a logo".
This is a type of logo where one can spend arbitrary amounts of time to optimize the appearance (e.g., some icons could be more abstract). But we should view this as a draft for now and not discuss every detail yet. The icons have a slight cultural bias (with the wine being the most controversial), but again this could be refined.
In my view, it would be worth elaborating this further. I hope more people agree. The main issue is to make the logo more prominent/recognizable on smaller scales (compared to the other logos at [1]), which could require some abstraction/coarsening of the icons.
Markus
[1] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikidata_logo_proposals
On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Markus Krötzsch <markus@semantic-mediawiki.org mailto:markus@semantic-mediawiki.org> wrote:
On 06/04/12 12:35, Benjamin Bois wrote: Hi Markus, thank you for helping us (designers) to find the way :) To help us a bit more, can you (and the other members) give us elements to be integrated to the logo in reference to the WikiData philosophy? Well, just making suggestions ... in the end (like with all Wikimedia projects), the community will decide about the logo. The Wikidata developer team might only decide about the logo for the software (just like MediaWiki has an own logo that is different from Wikipedia's logo). So in fact we will need two logos :-) So what should go into a Wikidata logo? I think: everything that people collect data about: people, animals, cars, chemistry, music, math, flowers, computers, ... Like the puzzle globe emphasizes the textual nature of Wikipedia (in many languages), a Wikidata logo should emphasize that the project is about the "things" themselves. I don't know how to make this visually appealing and clearly recognizable at the scale of a normal wiki logo, but I think it could be done. Good luck :-) Markus On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Markus Krötzsch <markus@semantic-mediawiki.org <mailto:markus@semantic-mediawiki.org> <mailto:markus@semantic- mediawiki.org <mailto:markus@semantic-mediawiki.org>>> wrote: Thanks for all the input! One thing I would like to keep in mind is that Wikidata is meant to be easy and welcoming for a wide audience. As a computer scientist, I understand and appreciate imagery like a steel database cylinder, but I think it could look a bit technocratic to "normal" people. I don't have concrete proposals, but I would find it amazing if the logo could have a human touch to it. One idea maybe: many people will know the Unilever logo [1] (a U made of a variety of objects). There are various logos in similar style (see also the "earth" category at logotrends 2011 [2]). Maybe something like this would be suitable for us, to show that Wikidata is about a wide range of topics and people. But making such a logo is a bit of work. Cheers, Markus [1] https://www.google.com/search? q=unilever+logo&um=1&tbm=isch <https://www.google.com/ search?q=unilever+logo&um=1& tbm=isch <https://www.google.com/search?q=unilever+logo&um=1&tbm=isch>> [2] http://www.logolounge.com/ article.asp <http://www.logolounge.com/ article.asp <http://www.logolounge.com/article.asp>>? On 05/04/12 08:39, Lydia Pintscher wrote: Hey folks :) You're all awesome for creating pretty logos! Love them. Can you all add them to http://meta.wikimedia.org/ wiki/Talk:Wikidata#WikiData_ logo_candidate <http://meta.wikimedia.org/ wiki/Talk:Wikidata#WikiData_ logo_candidate <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikidata#WikiData_logo_candidate>> please so we don't lose any of them? Cheers Lydia ______________________________ _________________ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org> <mailto:Wikidata-l@lists. wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/ mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l <https://lists.wikimedia.org/ mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l>> ______________________________ _________________ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/ mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l> ______________________________ _________________ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/ mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l>
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On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 12:40, Markus Krötzsch < markus@semantic-mediawiki.org> wrote:
On 08/04/12 21:04, Benjamin Bois wrote:
Hi all,
I've just finished the new logo from the Markus idea:
- http://dl.dropbox.com/u/**177440/wikidata/20120407_**wikidata10.pnghttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/177440/wikidata/20120407_wikidata10.png
Now, I stop and wait for comments and others critics.
This is very nice. I do like the overall appearance of this assembled logo. Also, the whole work clearly says "I am a logo".
This is a type of logo where one can spend arbitrary amounts of time to optimize the appearance (e.g., some icons could be more abstract). But we should view this as a draft for now and not discuss every detail yet. The icons have a slight cultural bias (with the wine being the most controversial), but again this could be refined.
In my view, it would be worth elaborating this further. I hope more people agree. The main issue is to make the logo more prominent/recognizable on smaller scales (compared to the other logos at [1]), which could require some abstraction/coarsening of the icons.
Markus
[1] http://commons.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Category:Wikidata_logo_**proposalshttp://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikidata_logo_proposals
On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Markus Krötzsch <markus@semantic-mediawiki.org <mailto:markus@semantic-**mediawiki.orgmarkus@semantic-mediawiki.org
wrote:
On 06/04/12 12:35, Benjamin Bois wrote:
Hi Markus, thank you for helping us (designers) to find the way :) To help us a bit more, can you (and the other members) give us elements to be integrated to the logo in reference to the WikiData philosophy?Well, just making suggestions ... in the end (like with all Wikimedia projects), the community will decide about the logo. The Wikidata developer team might only decide about the logo for the software (just like MediaWiki has an own logo that is different from Wikipedia's logo). So in fact we will need two logos :-)
So what should go into a Wikidata logo? I think: everything that people collect data about: people, animals, cars, chemistry, music, math, flowers, computers, ... Like the puzzle globe emphasizes the textual nature of Wikipedia (in many languages), a Wikidata logo should emphasize that the project is about the "things" themselves. I don't know how to make this visually appealing and clearly recognizable at the scale of a normal wiki logo, but I think it could be done.
Good luck :-)
Markus
On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Markus Krötzsch <markus@semantic-mediawiki.org <mailto:markus@semantic-**mediawiki.org<markus@semantic-mediawiki.org>><mailto:markus@semantic-
mediawiki.org <mailto:markus@semantic-**mediawiki.org<markus@semantic-mediawiki.org>wrote: Thanks for all the input! One thing I would like to keep in mind is that Wikidata is meant to be easy and welcoming for a wide audience. As a computer scientist, I understand and appreciate imagery like a steel database cylinder, but I think it could look a bit technocratic to "normal" people. I don't have concrete proposals, but I would find it amazing if the logo could have a human touch to it. One idea maybe: many people will know the Unilever logo [1] (aU made of a variety of objects). There are various logos in similar style (see also the "earth" category at logotrends 2011 [2]). Maybe something like this would be suitable for us, to show that Wikidata is about a wide range of topics and people. But making such a logo is a bit of work.
Cheers, Markus [1] https://www.google.com/search?q=unilever+logo&um=1&tbm=isch <https://www.google.com/ search?q=unilever+logo&um=1& tbm=isch <https://www.google.com/**search?q=unilever+logo&um=1&**tbm=ischhttps://www.google.com/search?q=unilever+logo&um=1&tbm=isch
[2] http://www.logolounge.com/ article.asp <http://www.logolounge.com/ article.asp <http://www.logolounge.com/**article.asp<http://www.logolounge.com/article.asp>?
On 05/04/12 08:39, Lydia Pintscher wrote: Hey folks :) You're all awesome for creating pretty logos! Love them. Can you all add them to http://meta.wikimedia.org/ wiki/Talk:Wikidata#WikiData_ logo_candidate <http://meta.wikimedia.org/ wiki/Talk:Wikidata#WikiData_ logo_candidate <http://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Talk:Wikidata#WikiData_**logo_candidatehttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikidata#WikiData_logo_candidate
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Hi, Indeed, nice set of logos!
I agree with Markus with the fact that the final logo (what ever it is) should be prominent/recognizable at smaller scales.
I wonder how important it is that the logo shares similarities with other Wikimedia logos (similar colors/fonts/shapes), so the project can be easily recognized as a Wikimedia project?
Personally, I am in favor of a simple abstract logo. They usually stands better the test of time.
-Nicolas
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 3:40 AM, Markus Krötzsch markus@semantic-mediawiki.org wrote:
On 08/04/12 21:04, Benjamin Bois wrote:
Hi all,
I've just finished the new logo from the Markus idea:
Now, I stop and wait for comments and others critics.
This is very nice. I do like the overall appearance of this assembled logo. Also, the whole work clearly says "I am a logo".
This is a type of logo where one can spend arbitrary amounts of time to optimize the appearance (e.g., some icons could be more abstract). But we should view this as a draft for now and not discuss every detail yet. The icons have a slight cultural bias (with the wine being the most controversial), but again this could be refined.
In my view, it would be worth elaborating this further. I hope more people agree. The main issue is to make the logo more prominent/recognizable on smaller scales (compared to the other logos at [1]), which could require some abstraction/coarsening of the icons.
Markus
[1] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikidata_logo_proposals
On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Markus Krötzsch <markus@semantic-mediawiki.org mailto:markus@semantic-mediawiki.org> wrote:
On 06/04/12 12:35, Benjamin Bois wrote:
Hi Markus, thank you for helping us (designers) to find the way :) To help us a bit more, can you (and the other members) give us elements to be integrated to the logo in reference to the WikiData philosophy?
Well, just making suggestions ... in the end (like with all Wikimedia projects), the community will decide about the logo. The Wikidata developer team might only decide about the logo for the software (just like MediaWiki has an own logo that is different from Wikipedia's logo). So in fact we will need two logos :-)
So what should go into a Wikidata logo? I think: everything that people collect data about: people, animals, cars, chemistry, music, math, flowers, computers, ... Like the puzzle globe emphasizes the textual nature of Wikipedia (in many languages), a Wikidata logo should emphasize that the project is about the "things" themselves. I don't know how to make this visually appealing and clearly recognizable at the scale of a normal wiki logo, but I think it could be done.
Good luck :-)
Markus
On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Markus Krötzsch <markus@semantic-mediawiki.org mailto:markus@semantic-mediawiki.org <mailto:markus@semantic- mediawiki.org mailto:markus@semantic-mediawiki.org>>
wrote:
Thanks for all the input!
One thing I would like to keep in mind is that Wikidata is meant to be easy and welcoming for a wide audience. As a computer scientist, I understand and appreciate imagery like a steel database cylinder, but I think it could look a bit technocratic to "normal" people. I don't have concrete proposals, but I would find it amazing if the logo could have a human touch to it.
One idea maybe: many people will know the Unilever logo [1] (a U made of a variety of objects). There are various logos in similar style (see also the "earth" category at logotrends 2011 [2]). Maybe something like this would be suitable for us, to show that Wikidata is about a wide range of topics and people. But making such a logo is a bit of work.
Cheers,
Markus
[1] https://www.google.com/search? q=unilever+logo&um=1&tbm=isch <https://www.google.com/ search?q=unilever+logo&um=1& tbm=isch https://www.google.com/search?q=unilever+logo&um=1&tbm=isch> [2] http://www.logolounge.com/ article.asp <http://www.logolounge.com/ article.asp http://www.logolounge.com/article.asp>?
On 05/04/12 08:39, Lydia Pintscher wrote:
Hey folks :)
You're all awesome for creating pretty logos! Love them. Can you all add them to http://meta.wikimedia.org/ wiki/Talk:Wikidata#WikiData_ logo_candidate <http://meta.wikimedia.org/ wiki/Talk:Wikidata#WikiData_ logo_candidate
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikidata#WikiData_logo_candidate> please so we don't lose any of them?
Cheers Lydia
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Here is my simple logo proposal for wikidata. I dont know how to create logos. its just my first creation for wikipedia.
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikidata_logo_proposal.png
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On 12 April 2012 10:34, Nicolas Torzec nicolas.torzec@gmail.com wrote:
Hi, Indeed, nice set of logos!
I agree with Markus with the fact that the final logo (what ever it is) should be prominent/recognizable at smaller scales.
I wonder how important it is that the logo shares similarities with other Wikimedia logos (similar colors/fonts/shapes), so the project can be easily recognized as a Wikimedia project?
Personally, I am in favor of a simple abstract logo. They usually stands better the test of time.
-Nicolas
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 3:40 AM, Markus Krötzsch markus@semantic-mediawiki.org wrote:
On 08/04/12 21:04, Benjamin Bois wrote:
Hi all,
I've just finished the new logo from the Markus idea:
Now, I stop and wait for comments and others critics.
This is very nice. I do like the overall appearance of this assembled
logo.
Also, the whole work clearly says "I am a logo".
This is a type of logo where one can spend arbitrary amounts of time to optimize the appearance (e.g., some icons could be more abstract). But we should view this as a draft for now and not discuss every detail yet. The icons have a slight cultural bias (with the wine being the most controversial), but again this could be refined.
In my view, it would be worth elaborating this further. I hope more
people
agree. The main issue is to make the logo more prominent/recognizable on smaller scales (compared to the other logos at [1]), which could require some abstraction/coarsening of the icons.
Markus
[1] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikidata_logo_proposals
On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Markus Krötzsch <markus@semantic-mediawiki.org mailto:markus@semantic-mediawiki.org> wrote:
On 06/04/12 12:35, Benjamin Bois wrote:
Hi Markus, thank you for helping us (designers) to find the way :) To help us a bit more, can you (and the other members) give us elements to be integrated to the logo in reference to the WikiData philosophy?Well, just making suggestions ... in the end (like with all Wikimedia projects), the community will decide about the logo. The Wikidata developer team might only decide about the logo for the software (just like MediaWiki has an own logo that is different from Wikipedia's logo). So in fact we will need two logos :-)
So what should go into a Wikidata logo? I think: everything that people collect data about: people, animals, cars, chemistry, music, math, flowers, computers, ... Like the puzzle globe emphasizes the textual nature of Wikipedia (in many languages), a Wikidata logo should emphasize that the project is about the "things" themselves. I don't know how to make this visually appealing and clearly recognizable at the scale of a normal wiki logo, but I think it could be done.
Good luck :-)
Markus
On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Markus Krötzsch <markus@semantic-mediawiki.org <mailto:markus@semantic-mediawiki.org> <mailto:markus@semantic- mediawiki.org <mailto:markus@semantic-mediawiki.org>>> wrote: Thanks for all the input! One thing I would like to keep in mind is that Wikidata is meant to be easy and welcoming for a wide audience. As a computer scientist, I understand and appreciate imagery like a steel database cylinder, but I think it could look a bit technocratic to "normal" people. I don't have concrete proposals, but I would find it amazing if the logo could have a human touch to it. One idea maybe: many people will know the Unilever logo [1](a
U made of a variety of objects). There are various logos in similar style (see also the "earth" category at logotrends 2011 [2]). Maybe something like this would be suitable for us, to show that Wikidata is about a wide range of topics and people. But making such a logo is a bit of work.
Cheers, Markus [1] https://www.google.com/search?q=unilever+logo&um=1&tbm=isch <https://www.google.com/ search?q=unilever+logo&um=1& tbm=isch https://www.google.com/search?q=unilever+logo&um=1&tbm=isch> [2] http://www.logolounge.com/ article.asp <http://www.logolounge.com/ article.asp http://www.logolounge.com/article.asp>?
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