Kerry,
Yes, it is possible to extract data with templates. A very simple
demonstration (and about my limit of template-wrangling...), is: go to
(random Queensland city article)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundaberg
and preview (don't save!) an edit with "{{#property:p1082}}" pasted in.
Property1082 is "population", and you'll see that it shows the 2014
population as specified at
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q185404
(Bundaberg).
Also, notice those 3 tiny vertical squares next to each value at Wikidata:
http://i.imgur.com/8h6pGoQ.png Those are the "rank
<https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:Ranking>" and only one of them can be
marked as "preferred"; in the Bundaberg population that is the most recent
2014 value. Hence it knows which of the many historical population numbers
to use.
There are a few live examples of data extraction in
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Templates_using_data_from_Wikidata -
A good one is Template:Infobox_anatomy - e.g. if you check the wikitext at
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skin you'll see that no specific values are
given for 3 of the parameters that are showing in the infobox, they're all
coming from Wikidata.
At Enwiki, the place to request help with the creation of specific
templates, is
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_templates
Currently, Wikidata advises only using data within other templates (such as
infoboxes and authority control boxes) and not in prose. This is also often
individually discussed at each community, e.g. Enwiki last discussed it
exhaustively in 2013, with relevant conclusions at
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikidata#Inserting_Wikidata_values_…
- the talkpage there, would be another good place to ask for help or
clarification.
Adding info to Wikidata, is sadly not as simple as uploading a spreadsheet.
It is done one change at a time, though is often sped along via
bots/scripts/tools. I would suggest asking
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mattinbgn who added the population data
to Bundaberg how they did it
https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q185404&action=history - If that
editor doesn't know how to semi-automate the process for bulk data, then
ask for help at
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Bot_requests (or
perhaps skim old requests
<https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=population&prefix=Wikidata%3ABot+requests%2FArchive%2F&fulltext=Search+the+archives&fulltext=Search>
if so inclined).
The very short overview, is
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Data_donation
Hope that helps, or at least leads you towards clearer answers
Quiddity
(n.b. this is all with my volunteer hat (coming from the wrong email
account, but the one subscribed to this list) and might contain errors
(corrections appreciated). I just have an amateur enthusiasm for Wikidata,
and look forward to the time when infoboxes at all Wikipedias contain
up-to-date statistics with minimal redundant effort. :-)
On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Kerry Raymond <kerry.raymond(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
[...]
However, I have a problem and I wonder if Wikidata can help with it. We
have a census in Australia every 5 years and the population data from the
most recent census (2011) is a standard item in every lede and infobox for
any Australian place (town/suburb/locality) article on en.WP at least.
However, maintaining that information is a massive tedious manual task. As
a consequence, we still have lots of articles with 2006 census data while
the 2016 census is coming at us like a freight train. The 2016 census will
be the first one done primarily online (normally we fill out a long paper
form and so there are months of data entry which delays the release of the
data) and the data will be released around mid-2017. Now all this
population data is available as spreadsheets under CC-BY license.
My question is this. Can we update these spreadsheets into Wikidata and
then create some kind of template on en.WP which can extract that data from
Wikidata. I am thinking something like:
{{CensusAUlatest|QLD|Childers}}
Which we could embed in, say, the lede and which would produce something
like
In the 2016 Australian census, Childers reported a population of 12,345.
<ref>….</ref>
Where the 12,345 (and probably some components of the citation) would be
extracted from the 2016 spreadsheet entry for Childers. I’ve asked a few
people if this is possible to automate in this way and I get the standard
response “it might be but I don’t know enough about Wikidata”.
We have a similar problem with climate data where again we can probably
obtain spreadsheets with the data under a suitable license if we had a way
to automatically incorporate it into articles within the current massive
manual effort.
Do you have any advice for us? I am sure we are not the only nation with
this census problem, although I realise that in some countries the data may
not be released in suitable formats or with suitable licenses.
Kerry
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*Subject:* [Wiki-research-l] Quality issues
Hoi,
At Wikidata we often find issues with data imported from a Wikipedia.
Lists have been produced with these issues on the Wikipedia involved and
arguably they do present issues with the quality of Wikipedia or Wikidata
for that matter. So far hardly anything resulted from such outreach.
When Wikipedia is a black box, not communicating about with the outside
world, at some stage the situation becomes toxic. At this moment there are
already those at Wikidata that argue not to bother about Wikipedia quality
because in their view, Wikipedians do not care about its own quality.
Arguably known issues with quality are the easiest to solve.
There are many ways to approach this subject. It is indeed a quality issue
both for Wikidata and Wikipedia. It can be seen as a research issue; how to
deal with quality and how do such mechanisms function if at all.
I blogged about it..
Thanks,
GerardM
http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2015/11/what-kind-of-box-is-wikipedia.ht…
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