Hoi,
Yes.
Data in Wikidata can be dated and the latest data can be indicated as
current. As I understand LUA may be used to use the latest data from
Wikidata. So yes, you can upload the census data to Wikidata and use
templates in any Wikipedia to show the latest data for any and all
Australian settlements.
I am not the right guy to ask for the LUA code, it is why I included
Wikidata-l.
Thanks,
GerardM
On 20 November 2015 at 22:44, Kerry Raymond <kerry.raymond(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Gerard
Can you provide some URLs for these lists and blog postings please?
I think part of the problem may be that the information never reaches
“ordinary editors”. Communication channels on our projects are very poor. I
read article talk pages and the Australian Wikipedians Noticeboard, but not
a lot of other places.
However, I have a problem and I wonder if Wikidata can help with it. We
have a census in Australia every 5 years and the population data from the
most recent census (2011) is a standard item in every lede and infobox for
any Australian place (town/suburb/locality) article on en.WP at least.
However, maintaining that information is a massive tedious manual task. As
a consequence, we still have lots of articles with 2006 census data while
the 2016 census is coming at us like a freight train. The 2016 census will
be the first one done primarily online (normally we fill out a long paper
form and so there are months of data entry which delays the release of the
data) and the data will be released around mid-2017. Now all this
population data is available as spreadsheets under CC-BY license.
My question is this. Can we update these spreadsheets into Wikidata and
then create some kind of template on en.WP which can extract that data from
Wikidata. I am thinking something like:
{{CensusAUlatest|QLD|Childers}}
Which we could embed in, say, the lede and which would produce something
like
In the 2016 Australian census, Childers reported a population of 12,345.
<ref>….</ref>
Where the 12,345 (and probably some components of the citation) would be
extracted from the 2016 spreadsheet entry for Childers. I’ve asked a few
people if this is possible to automate in this way and I get the standard
response “it might be but I don’t know enough about Wikidata”.
We have a similar problem with climate data where again we can probably
obtain spreadsheets with the data under a suitable license if we had a way
to automatically incorporate it into articles within the current massive
manual effort.
Do you have any advice for us? I am sure we are not the only nation with
this census problem, although I realise that in some countries the data may
not be released in suitable formats or with suitable licenses.
Kerry
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*Subject:* [Wiki-research-l] Quality issues
Hoi,
At Wikidata we often find issues with data imported from a Wikipedia.
Lists have been produced with these issues on the Wikipedia involved and
arguably they do present issues with the quality of Wikipedia or Wikidata
for that matter. So far hardly anything resulted from such outreach.
When Wikipedia is a black box, not communicating about with the outside
world, at some stage the situation becomes toxic. At this moment there are
already those at Wikidata that argue not to bother about Wikipedia quality
because in their view, Wikipedians do not care about its own quality.
Arguably known issues with quality are the easiest to solve.
There are many ways to approach this subject. It is indeed a quality issue
both for Wikidata and Wikipedia. It can be seen as a research issue; how to
deal with quality and how do such mechanisms function if at all.
I blogged about it..
Thanks,
GerardM
http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2015/11/what-kind-of-box-is-wikipedia.ht…
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