hi,
a collegue made me stumble upon a german user page with a couple of interesting notes concerning wikimedia participation: http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Benutzer:DrJunge&oldid=9642776...
there is quite a lot of statements why the author thinks the current wmf and wmde suggestions for increasing participation and image filtering are "headless" and will not lead to any success. and, there is one idea which i find very appealing:
to increase female participation, drjunge suggests to implement "post-it"s. they can be placed on any position into wikipedia pages, and are only personally viewable in a first step. later the visibility might be extended just like with other social networks. one funny side-usage of these post-its is that they of course can be placed onto images one does not like.
as i am not female and not non-participating, i'd wonder what you think about such an idea?
rupert.
* rupert THURNER wrote:
to increase female participation, drjunge suggests to implement "post-it"s. they can be placed on any position into wikipedia pages, and are only personally viewable in a first step. later the visibility might be extended just like with other social networks. one funny side-usage of these post-its is that they of course can be placed onto images one does not like.
as i am not female and not non-participating, i'd wonder what you think about such an idea?
If you want to close the "gendergap" then you have to think about how to turn 10% female participation into 90% female participation.
I don't think women are "scared" or disinterested to participate because of images on Wikipedia. People are uncomfortable about certain images regardless of gender, just like people having a hard time with wiki-mark up is genderless. But, that's just speaking for my experiences, research and role in English Wikipedia.
I don't really think post-it note type tools would benefit Wikipedia any more or less than the image filter would, and that idea has basically been shot down. It also sounds like the user of the post-it note would have to view the image to place the post-it on top of the image, so I'm not too sure what the benefit would be.
-Sarah
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Bjoern Hoehrmann derhoermi@gmx.net wrote:
- rupert THURNER wrote:
to increase female participation, drjunge suggests to implement
"post-it"s.
they can be placed on any position into wikipedia pages, and are only personally viewable in a first step. later the visibility might be
extended
just like with other social networks. one funny side-usage of these post-its is that they of course can be placed onto images one does not
like.
as i am not female and not non-participating, i'd wonder what you think about such an idea?
If you want to close the "gendergap" then you have to think about how to turn 10% female participation into 90% female participation. -- Björn Höhrmann · mailto:bjoern@hoehrmann.de · http://bjoern.hoehrmann.de Am Badedeich 7 · Telefon: +49(0)160/4415681 · http://www.bjoernsworld.de 25899 Dagebüll · PGP Pub. KeyID: 0xA4357E78 · http://www.websitedev.de/
Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
as I understood drjunges remarks, post-it notes bring a personal, non-public component, which lowers the edit barrier. depending on the implementation, they are able to extend, replace or provide e.g.: page watch, classical note glued onto or over text or images, categories, tags, bookmarks, share the post-its to me, groups or public, editing templates (a la "this article needs help"), quality categorisation to select contents for offline.
in a summary, while I always thought wikipedia is not facebook, such notes offer a wealth of new applications, which we are not even able to enumerate currently.
rupert On Nov 27, 2011 11:43 PM, "Sarah Stierch" sarah.stierch@gmail.com wrote:
I don't think women are "scared" or disinterested to participate because of images on Wikipedia. People are uncomfortable about certain images regardless of gender, just like people having a hard time with wiki-mark up is genderless. But, that's just speaking for my experiences, research and role in English Wikipedia.
I don't really think post-it note type tools would benefit Wikipedia any more or less than the image filter would, and that idea has basically been shot down. It also sounds like the user of the post-it note would have to view the image to place the post-it on top of the image, so I'm not too sure what the benefit would be.
-Sarah
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Bjoern Hoehrmann derhoermi@gmx.netwrote:
- rupert THURNER wrote:
to increase female participation, drjunge suggests to implement
"post-it"s.
they can be placed on any position into wikipedia pages, and are only personally viewable in a first step. later the visibility might be
extended
just like with other social networks. one funny side-usage of these post-its is that they of course can be placed onto images one does not
like.
as i am not female and not non-participating, i'd wonder what you think about such an idea?
If you want to close the "gendergap" then you have to think about how to turn 10% female participation into 90% female participation. -- Björn Höhrmann · mailto:bjoern@hoehrmann.de · http://bjoern.hoehrmann.de Am Badedeich 7 · Telefon: +49(0)160/4415681 · http://www.bjoernsworld.de 25899 Dagebüll · PGP Pub. KeyID: 0xA4357E78 · http://www.websitedev.de/
Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
-- http://www.glamwiki.org Sarah Stierch Consulting
*Historical, cultural & artistic research & advising.*
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All I can suggest is - he can create a proposal and support and test it :)
Perhaps it will work some magic that we can all benefit from!
Sarah
Sent via iPhone - I apologize in advance for my shortness or errors! :)
On Nov 28, 2011, at 3:04 AM, rupert THURNER rupert.thurner@gmail.com wrote:
as I understood drjunges remarks, post-it notes bring a personal, non-public component, which lowers the edit barrier. depending on the implementation, they are able to extend, replace or provide e.g.: page watch, classical note glued onto or over text or images, categories, tags, bookmarks, share the post-its to me, groups or public, editing templates (a la "this article needs help"), quality categorisation to select contents for offline.
in a summary, while I always thought wikipedia is not facebook, such notes offer a wealth of new applications, which we are not even able to enumerate currently.
rupert On Nov 27, 2011 11:43 PM, "Sarah Stierch" sarah.stierch@gmail.com wrote: I don't think women are "scared" or disinterested to participate because of images on Wikipedia. People are uncomfortable about certain images regardless of gender, just like people having a hard time with wiki-mark up is genderless. But, that's just speaking for my experiences, research and role in English Wikipedia.
I don't really think post-it note type tools would benefit Wikipedia any more or less than the image filter would, and that idea has basically been shot down. It also sounds like the user of the post-it note would have to view the image to place the post-it on top of the image, so I'm not too sure what the benefit would be.
-Sarah
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Bjoern Hoehrmann derhoermi@gmx.net wrote:
- rupert THURNER wrote:
to increase female participation, drjunge suggests to implement "post-it"s. they can be placed on any position into wikipedia pages, and are only personally viewable in a first step. later the visibility might be extended just like with other social networks. one funny side-usage of these post-its is that they of course can be placed onto images one does not like.
as i am not female and not non-participating, i'd wonder what you think about such an idea?
If you want to close the "gendergap" then you have to think about how to turn 10% female participation into 90% female participation. -- Björn Höhrmann · mailto:bjoern@hoehrmann.de · http://bjoern.hoehrmann.de Am Badedeich 7 · Telefon: +49(0)160/4415681 · http://www.bjoernsworld.de 25899 Dagebüll · PGP Pub. KeyID: 0xA4357E78 · http://www.websitedev.de/
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