great i nominate you for team leader start an idea at idea lab https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab and go for a small grant of less than 2000 there may be a critical mass of supporters out there cheers
On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 10:42 PM, Amanda Menking amenking@uw.edu wrote:
I'd be happy to work with English majors and MLIS students at the University of Washington. I'm a former English major and teacher myself. :)
On May 11, 2017, at 7:39 PM, J Hayes slowking4@gmail.com wrote:
i would nominate sadads, he's the digital humanist but his plate is full maybe a small grant for a grad student of his choosing or roping in womeninred / women in green
On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 10:23 PM, Ryan Kaldari rkaldari@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 7:12 PM, J Hayes slowking4@gmail.com wrote:
maybe we should do an literature editathon?
Perhaps it's time for a Literature+Feminism editathon (to spin off from the Art+Feminism theme).
On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 2:22 PM, Ryan Kaldari rkaldari@wikimedia.org wrote:
You're right Lennart! It looks like I was limiting the query to only poems which had the inception date set. I re-ran the queries and got:
Poems by women: 1542 Poems by men: 20072 Ratio: 1:13
Poems by women with articles on English Wikipedia: 162 Poems by men with articles on English Wikipedia: 992 Ratio: 1:6
Those numbers look a bit more reasonable :) But still plenty of room for improvement! Thanks for double-checking my work.
On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 12:32 AM, Lennart Guldbrandsson < l_guldbrandsson@hotmail.com> wrote:
Interesting. Thanks!
I am not saying the results are skewed, but there are lots of poems that are in Wikisource that lack Wikidata entries. For instance, this list of Emily Dickinson poems: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ List_of_Emily_Dickinson_poems
The first poem in her template is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Success_is_Counted_Sweetes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Success_is_Counted_Sweetestwhich has its own Wikidata entry: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q7632593 This poem was not listed on the Wikidata query poems by women: http://tinyurl.com/kq4bq8x nor on the query poems by women on English Wikipedia, so all poems are not counted as they should be.
This is not to say that there is not probably a poem gap (wonderful term). Just that we should check the numbers before we go public with them.
Best wishes,
Lennart Guldbrandsson
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Just out of curiosity, I used the Wikidata Query Service to see how many poems by women are in Wikidata. The answer is 5. If you do the same query for men, you get 255. If you restrict the queries to poems that have articles on English Wikipedia you get 1 and 57, i.e. according to Wikidata there is only one article about a poem by a woman on English Wikipedia. This probably isn't accurate, but it's still a surprising result. While I understand that poetry (and writing in general) has historically been the domain of men, does a 50 to 1 ratio really reflect the historical reality? Anyway, just something to chew on.
If you want to run the queries yourself (or modify them) here they are:
Poems by women: http://tinyurl.com/kq4bq8x Poems by men: http://tinyurl.com/m7mqynq
Poems by women with articles on English Wikipedia: http://tinyurl.com/mzj6wak Poems by men with articles on English Wikipedia: http://tinyurl.com/mnmsnkl
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